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China Has Intent

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Hi Paul,
The thing is I'm not sure I want 'radical' change
I feel like all I'm trying to do is avert catastrophe.

Look read this article:
How Putin Rebuilt Russia’s War Machine With Help From U.S. Adversaries
http://www.wsj.com/world/how-putin-rebuilt-russias-war-machine-with-help-from-u-s-adversaries-1ea6c2d1
Iran, North Korea and China are supplying the people and know-how to tool up Russia’s factories and churn out arms for the war in Ukraine

"WASHINGTON—Russia’s military cooperation with Iran, North Korea and China has expanded into the sharing of sensitive technologies that could threaten the U.S. and its allies long after the Ukraine war ends, according to U.S. defense and intelligence officials.

The speed and depth of the expanding security ties involving the U.S. adversaries has at times surprised American intelligence analysts. Russia and the other nations have set aside historic frictions to collectively counter what they regard as a U.S.-dominated global system, they said."

Really, the US didn't see that coming?
The Us can't even keep up with the wars it currently has, and you can bet all these other countries are stockpiling.

The West sealed it's own fate when it started sanctioning everyone and using trade as a weapon. Or course those targeted would get in cahoots.

Malaysia preparing to join BRICS economic group
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/malaysia-preparing-join-brics-economic-group-media-report-says-2024-06-18/

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/malaysia-preparing-join-brics-economic-group-media-report-says-2024-06-18/

There's over 40 more countries lined up to join, they all want out of the US system. Hopefully the transition to a multipolar or as the new term multinodal world wont involve a big war, but fading empires seldom go quietly.

I'm not looking for a radical leader.
Prudent and pragmatic might help though.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 21 June 2024 8:57:26 AM
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How Putin Turned a Western Boycott Into a Bonanza
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/12/17/world/putin-companies-economy-boycott-elites-benefit-ukraine-war.html

Russia to grow faster than all advanced economies says IMF
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/12/17/world/putin-companies-economy-boycott-elites-benefit-ukraine-war.html

Literally everything the West is doing right now is blowing up in its own face.
Look what Europe's done to itself.
They cut themselves off from Russian energy, allowed the US to blow their cheap gas pipeline up, and are heading towards third world country status, now talking conscription.
They are all crazy fanatics leading everyone off a cliff.

The collective West wrecks everything it touches right now.
It needs to accept that others can and do have a say in issues that affect them, not merely accept Washington dictates, and threats without question.
- And they have the clout to back it up.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 21 June 2024 9:17:24 AM
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mhaze,

I'm not the only one with concerns regarding Donald Trump's
re-election:

1) Former US president Donald Trump's lavish praise
and support of Vladimir Putin are fueling alarm among
former intelligence officials and other experts who
fear another Trump presidency would benefit Moscow
and harm American democracy and interests overseas.

2) Trump recklessly risked a war with North Korea in
2017, then he started a negotiating process with Kim
Jong-un the following 2 years. He may have avoided
conflict with North Korea but he wasn't able to
prevent them carrying out six nuclear tests and many
ballistic missile launches in 2017.

3) Not only is North Korea a very real and persistent
threat to the US which is within range of its
intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBM) but also for
the US two closest allies - South Korea and Japan.

We should all be concerned if this unstable man gets re-elected
for a second term as US President.

"Trump Derangement Syndrome?"

This term has mainly been used by Trump supporters such as
yourself to try to discredit any criticism of Trump as a
way of re-framing the discussion by suggestion that his
opponents are incapable of accurately perceiving the man.

As for my not giving you Senator Penny Wong's achievements?

Again, I shall repeat the fact that you only have to read
the link I gave you. Her achievements are all listed there.

This shouldn't be difficult for you to do. But if it is too
difficult try reading about the Trans-Pacific Partnership
that she helped negotiate as well as the strong standard
that she's set in rebuilding diplomatic ties with Australia's
nearest neighbours. She's spear-headed a substantive shift
in how Australia engages with its "Pacific Family."

Her approach has been welcomed in the Pacific.

You're welcome.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 21 June 2024 11:26:42 AM
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" Former US president Donald Trump's lavish praise
and support of Vladimir Putin are fueling alarm among
former intelligence officials and other experts'

Are they the same "former intelligence officials and other experts" who thought the Hunter Laptop was Russian propaganda? Yeah let's all trust what they have to say.

Oh wait, they are telling Foxy what she wants to hear, so of course she'll fall for it.....again.

As I've said here more times than ought to be necessary for even the densest of readers, Trump's presidency was the harder on Putin than any previous leader. Whereas Obama begged Putin to give him space in an election year for which he'd show appropriate 'flexibility' in return, Trump came down hard on Putin in areas such as arms agreements, economic sanctions, oil pricing and support for Ukraine. But you won't understand that.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 21 June 2024 11:51:21 AM
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mhaze,

Here is the former US President Donald Trump's foreign policy
plans in his own words:

http://abc.net.au/news/2024-04-06/donald-trump-foreign-polcy-plans-in-his-words/103672178

And here is his politics on Putin:

http://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/17/politics/trump-soft-on-russia/index.html
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 21 June 2024 1:28:40 PM
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That CNN article was pretty funny. They just repeated every debunked claim about Trump vis a vis Russia that they could find.

I'm not surprised that low-information readers such as Foxy fell for it. Luckily CNN viewership/readership is in the toilet so few people will have been misled, unlike Foxy.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 21 June 2024 2:00:45 PM
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