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China Says We Must Not Visit Taiwan

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"How about some compassion for the good people of Taiwan who are at threat of falling into the terrible jaws of communist China?"
- The good people of Taiwan.. well their leaders actually believe that they have a right to rule all of mainland China.

Communist China.
Fun fact, communist China pulled 1 billion people out of poverty in a single generation.
Meanwhile rates of poverty and homelessness in Australia are on the increase.
- We can't even take care of ourselves Yuyutsu.

http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/rp/BudgetReviewOctober202223/AustralianGovernmentDebt
"In Australia, and in countries around the world, government economic support packages in response to the COVID-19 pandemic have led to large increases in government debt."

We have national debts expanding, Australian homeless increasing and meanwhile you have these large multinational companies doing business in our country and avoiding paying their fair share.

Microsoft: Gaming Global Taxes, Winning Government Contracts
http://cictar.org/all-research/microsoft

Why is our nation in so much debt?
The rich elites, corporates and multinationals found a way to not only avoid paying their fair share, capitalise or centralise your profits - but to also socialise their losses onto the general public.
- Think Hervey Norman and Qantas etc during the pandemic.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 26 May 2024 11:11:33 PM
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Dear Critic,

«The good people of Taiwan.. well their leaders actually believe that they have a right to rule all of mainland China.»

And I certainly reject such stupid claims.

China is China, Taiwan is Taiwan.

And the smaller states are - the better.

«Fun fact, communist China pulled 1 billion people out of poverty in a single generation.»

OK, so I rather be poor!

«We can't even take care of ourselves Yuyutsu»

We are just insisting on maintaining the same unearned standard of living, that's why.

«We have national debts expanding, Australian homeless increasing»

That is because Australian governments insist on irrational building standards. They rather have us "safe" and homeless.

People should be able to build their own shacks with their own hands, then gradually add rooms as they get to afford it.

«and meanwhile you have these large multinational companies doing business in our country and avoiding paying their fair share.»

If it was up to me, I would not have recognised them as legal entities.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 26 May 2024 11:30:29 PM
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Hi AC,

Totally agree with your above comment. Its not so much China fears an independent Taiwan, not desirable, but something China can live with, and has lived with for over 70 years. What is clear where this is leading, something China should fear is an American Taiwan. America has built a ring of sycophantic client states which encircles China, stretching from Japan in the north to Australia in the south. With superior nuclear capability on land and sea, combined with an aggressive posture, America is using bully boy tactics to force China's hand.

The same scenario of American encirclement is playing out with Russia, America uses NATO in the west, trying to add Ukraine to Turkiye in the south to contain Russia from all directions. In the Middle East Israel is Americas major tool of enforce, as it seeks to ferment instability in the region, giving it total control of ME oil. America is a very hungry, wealth driven Capitalist state, with a need for total world domination of all wealth and resources.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 27 May 2024 3:58:55 AM
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Dear Paul,

So what you are saying is that the people of Taiwan (and Ukraine for that matter) need to suffer Chinese oppression, only because America also happens to have interests in their region?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 27 May 2024 8:35:20 AM
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"So what you are saying is that the people of Taiwan (and Ukraine for that matter) need to suffer Chinese oppression, only because America also happens to have interests in their region?"

Taiwan and Ukraine - is NOT about Taiwan or Ukraine.
Taiwan and Ukraine are proxies for US wars against China and Russia.
Do you think the United States has helped the people of Ukraine?
Do you want that to happen to the Taiwanese people too?
Maybe you also want Australians to be used as cannon fodder in a war the Americans wish to start, but cannot win.

If you sent the entire US military into Ukraine right now, even with NATO, I'm not convinced Russia would be defeated.
In the US the Russia war hawks fight with the China war hawks over which nation should take priority.
- But they are stupid. Don't they realise Russia and China are now joined at the hip?
Maybe they do, and they think we are too dumb to notice.
These people are ready to throw everyones lives into a meat grinder to stay on top, in a world that no longer wishes to be dictated to by the US and the West.

BRICS nations have more financial clout now than the G7.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 27 May 2024 9:30:40 AM
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This thread is 11 days old. If you are that bored, start a new thread.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 27 May 2024 9:33:07 AM
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