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Australia, then and now.

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Hi AC,

Younger generations will generally assimilate.
The older ones may have problems depending on age.
But that's true of any group.
People ten to stick to what they feel
comfortable with. Still we can't make sweeping
generalizations - there's always individual
differences.

And God Bless the different communities. We're
all the richer for them.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 9:40:55 AM
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>>Apparently the spreadsheet used offensive language and
referred to sexual violence, using terms such as - "unrapeable."<<
- Yes, regrettably. I'd hate to be the principal on this one.

"We see this as a very serious matter it's completely counter
to everything that we hold dear here at the school."
- Is it counter to high school boys naturally increased levels of testosterone?
Gone is the non-sexualised days of primary school, in these young adolescents lives.
Suddenly the girls have boobs, and are wearing makeup and tight little pants, they start to admire their teen heart-throb, both sexes start having 'crushes' on members of the opposite sex (usually) and yes, the boys most certainly do notice which girls in their grade are the prettiest.

There's no avoiding or denying that part of our DNA.
- Whatever they 'hold dear' must fit into that reality above.

It's not a very respectable rating system, but you can't stop boys being boys.
(Hang on, there may actually an ongoing social experiment to that end)
Toxic Masculinity - aka Soyboy promotion... but I digress

I guess the problem with the pretty girls is the feelings of the not-so-pretty girls.
How horrible it would be for them being given such a rating and being placed on such a list.
The embarrassment, humiliation and shame, for something not your fault.
Like 'being unpretty' - didn't not already give you the poor end of the stick in the cards you were dealt being born...

Can't promote rape or be seen to.
Suspension was fair and reasonable.
Beyond that...

"Perhaps there will be a lesson learned in all of this."

- What's the lesson? (because I don't know)
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 10:17:09 AM
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Continuing on from what I said earlier...

"But really, it would have nothing to do with racism, but more about 'newcomer initiation' into the existing ways things are done around here..."...

- How much of 'White Australia racism' was really 'racism for the sake of racism'?
And how much of 'racism' was actually just 'newcomer initiation' where to try to put it a better way;

We didn't specifically hate any one foreign race in particular, we hated them all equally. Wog, Pom, Yank...
(Hate is not the right word)

And that's why I kind of think our culture was best described as:
'We don't have a culture, and we sure as hell don't bloody-well want yours!"

We didn't hate foreigners, it was a kind of loveable or respectful animosity, cajoling each other, defending our country and culture and pride in the nation, in a more blue-collar thicker-skinned era.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 10:34:41 AM
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Hi AC,

The lesson regarding the school boy's behaviour is -
blaming it on testosterone or "she asked for it,"
is no longer going to be excused. zip it up and take
responsibility for your own behaviour.
Excusing and inciting violence against females is
not acceptable behaviour. And you shall be punished.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 10:46:12 AM
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Hi AC,

Past behaviour concerning "foreigners" depends on the
circumstances involved. Each case is different.
And there have been many examples given in the past.
Much has been written on the subject. Not all of it
can be described as "friendly " behavior. Not all
of it was well-intentioned.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 10:50:38 AM
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I guess that what I'm trying to say...
- Is whether or not we went too far?

I think we did.

Some western countries now have significant Muslim populations, and they want their own caliphates in our western countries.

It's like we put this ideal, to not be racist and not offend anyone...
- To create this multicultural utopia, above the idea of actually being a nation that decides things for ourselves.

That some foreigner came along and decided for all of us, what should be best for all of us.

Could we not have found some kind of balance in between remaining a proud nation that would stick up for its own interests, instead of becoming a neutered nation just like all the rest that feel we must all be part of this global ideology instead of our existing individuality?

Like I said somewhere to you earlier...
We've become a nation that hates and despises our own flag-wavers, like somehow they're 'right-wing' 'anti-immigrant' 'unAustralian colonisers'.
And those who still wave it are made to feel guilty and do it in defiance.

It's almost as it we've become so ashamed of our past and desperate to follow the diversity religion that we all have to publicly burn the flag, denounce Paul Hogan, take up a same sex partner, (preferable a plus size one - because we don't want to fat shame anyone) and post selfies once a month on facebook with a gay, trans or different skin coloured friend while enjoying some weird foreign food, to reinforce and celebrate cultural diversity.
That we need to make displays laying in the ground in the fetal position, that we must publicly pee our pants a little bit in a display of acceptance and agreement for the new diversity religion.

And if we don't then we don't fit into the new idea of what's acceptable in this current age.
That's how ridiculous this whole cultural transition has become.

And well the Aussie in me says go and get stuffed.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 11:07:35 AM
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