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Australia, then and now.
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Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 6 May 2024 9:53:37 PM
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So I don't know
Foxy, That's quite obvious. As for 'I think we'll be just fine', there is no 'we' in the Labor World only an us & them ! Just ask Paul1405 who is pushing that divison. Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 7:09:39 AM
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When your relatives were told to "Speak English" on buses and trains. When you Anglo - sized your names to be acceptable.
Was it so hard? We don't like people looking at us and muttering in a foreign language. No-one does. It's disrespectful to us and disrespectful to our country. - And you'd be advertising that you didn't give a crap about assimilating or the feelings of the people already here, born here. You'd be taking the goodwill we offered by allowing your family to come here and be spitting in our faces. If you want to be 'included' or 'considered' by us for anything within our communities, we need to know how to address you, if we don't know how to say your bloody name, and you want to make a big deal of it, but make no effort to speak english, then we would pass you over and others like you as dealing with you is too hard. You people expect everything, but we don't even want to talk to you, stand there looking stupid trying to pronounce your name, and comprehend your broken english. I still say there were 2 types of racism. There's was the really bad types, like 'gas Jews' and 'lynch negroes' - And then there was the type of racism-lite which was more about retaining our own culture 'Australian tribalism'. We may have said 'bloody wog', but we weren't out to shoot the bloke. And it's the demise of this 'Australian tribalism' - 'A culture that doesn't want anyone else's culture', that made Australia the awesome country it was, it was THAT Australia that brought us our Paul Hogans. - Lovable larrikins. Now is all about UN political correct woke bs. What a sad and pathetic culture that is! This woke culture, took Paul Hogan away and put some blue haired whiny soy sipping efeminate pro-gay weirdo in its place, and everyone is dancing to the same pathetic tune, neutered and too gutless to defend their own interests for fear of offending some snowflake. Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 8:12:32 AM
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[This comment was first posted elsewhere on an incorrect thread]
- It's a shame the thread name doesn't display in the 'preview' btw. Here's an interesting thought exercise for you Foxy, I notice over on the other forum we have this new poster 'Random' - Welcome to the forum, Random. You'll notice the temperature just rose slightly between Fester and Random, with Fester calling Random a moron, and Random responding asking if Fester is offended and so what if he is... http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=10386&page=0#360347 Now, like you I support the 'let the Palestinians be free of genocide' side of the argument, and I'm fine with Randoms comment on Israel, but the second he's gotten niggly back at Fester, (even if it's a kind of valid response) I kind of feel this need to chime in and say 'go easy newcomer' in Festers defence. It's as if.... The people from within the 'established long term group' would 'rally around their long-term peer' in defence and opposition to the 'cheeky new upstart'. Here's the curious thing right: Would that comment have resembled 'racist' behavior? Like if we could all see the colours of each others skin, and we could all see that I was white, and if hypothetically Random was brown skinned, and I just said 'go easy newcomer', would that be considered to be said with 'racial undertones'? 'Rally around their long-term peer' (like I almost did for Fester) might be similar to the same type of behavior which relates to racism But really, it would have nothing to do with racism, but more about 'newcomer initiation' into the existing ways things are done around here... Not sure if anyone will follow me here... [smiles] Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 8:45:33 AM
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Hi AC,
The disrespect did not come from my parents. They learned English very quickly (they actually spoke several languages). Also they were invited to come to Australia from the Displaced people's camps in Germany to satisfy Australia's labour shortage at that time. They fulfilled the two year contracts that they had to sign. They worked wherever they were sent. And contributed towards building the country's infrastructure. They contributed. They fitted ij. The only disrespect shown was to them - it did not come from them. _______________________________________________________________ Hi AC, As for the Yarra Valley Grammar private school suspending 3 male students over a spreadsheet rating the attractiveness of female students? Apparently the spreadsheet used offensive language and referred to sexual violence, using terms such as - "unrapeable." The school principal said: "We see this as a very serious matter it's completely counter to everything that we hold dear here at the school." Considering the patterns of violence against women - any suggestions of violent acts and disrespecting females has to stop - especially in schools. Perhaps there will be a lesson learned in all of this. ___________________________________________________________________ Indyvidual, You're the one preaching division here. Lighten up. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 8:46:42 AM
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People who are not all that motivated to learn english, will end up creating small enclaves, because as soon as one non-english speaking person makes friends with another from their previous country who does speak a language they CAN understand, then these people will live with their own where they can communicate and not put effort into learning english.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 8:50:40 AM
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- Did the boys change, or did the rules and expectations change?
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/article/2024/may/06/yarra-valley-grammar-students-suspended-spreadsheet-rating-female-classmates