"Having escaped the lion's den, Bruce Lehrmann made the mistake of coming back for his hat"

Indeed.

Found to have on the balance of probabilities to have raped Ms Higgins.

A rapist.

Hi Steele,

I have to admit that I was surprised by the judge's
decision. It took ages for the judge to make it.
Anyway, we have to respect that decision. Who's
going to pay all the legal fees has not been decided
yet.

In any case, Bruce took a gamble, and he lost.

Will we ever know the full truth of what really
happened that night?

You beat me to it Steele, I put this in;

"Justice Michael Lee has thrown out former Liberal Staffer Bruce Lehrmann's case of defamation brought against Network Ten and journalist Lisa Wilkinson. Justice Lee went further, declaring that on the balance of probability Lehrmann had raped another Liberal staffer, Brittany Higgins, in the office of Senior Liberal Minister Linda Reynolds on the night of March 23rd 2019. Lehrmann, who described himself to police as the Liberal Minister Linda Reynolds’ “most senior staffer” refused to comment after the verdict was delivered, quickly rushing from the court. With this finding what is the future for both Lehrmann and Higgins?"

Justice Lee went for about an hour and a half delivering in detail his verdict, and it was stunning; Lehrmann raped Higgins, The expectation of Australians with their sense of fair play will be Lehrmann should face justice, is this possible? Another question is; Was there a cover up by the LIBERAL PARTY, through the actions of senior politicians including the most senior Liberal at the time Scott Morrison?

Hi Foxy,

"I have to admit that I was surprised by the judge's
decision."

Its obvious that Justice Lee wanted to leave no doubt in anyone's mind as to what he believed was both the actions on that night, and the character of Lehrmann describing him as a cad of the highest order, and worse still a rapists. His verdict was the strongest sentence Justice Lee could pass on Lehrmann, and in one and a half hours Justice Lee did that rather well.

One of the Forums leading Trumpsters was last August singing the praises of Lehrmann, as a virtuous senior LIBERAL PARTY member, who would do no wrong. The same "legal eagle" is always out of touch with his legal opinions.

The Three Stooges are loving this.

Hi Paul,

I am still unsure about all of this. I remember thinking
at the time when I watched the initial footage from
Parliament House - Higgins walking quite normally and
did not appear drunk. They both separated on entrance
and went in opposite directions. Of course I'm not
saying that Lehrmann is innocent. But I'm not so sure
that Higgins is either.

Hi Foxy,

Justice Lee had something to say about being intoxicated and walking. The admission that Lehrmann was plying Higgins with a large amount of alcohol, and the purpose/intent of that action was clear to his honour.

Don't those Old Farts who were trumpeting the virtues of poor hard done by Mr Lehrmann, at the hands of that terrible vixen Ms Higgins look bloody stupid now.

Hi Paul,

So what happens now for Lehrmann?

Hi Paul,

We have to remember that Bruce Lehrmann is not a
convicted rapist. What we can now say is that a
finding has been made against him in so far as
the judge was satisfied that non-consensual sex
had occurred in that office, and as such Lehrmann's
civil case failed. But we can't call him a rapist.

There has not been a criminal conviction that has found
him guilty of the relevant sexual assault. The civil
standard of proof is not the same as the criminal
standard.- which is far more rigorous in criminal law.

If the matter is returned to the criminal courts, then
all the parties will go through a much more rigorous
process than what has occurred in the Federal Court.

Lehrmann has always maintained his innocence and has
not been convicted of any crime.

He may choose to appeal this decision. Although he'll
need money to do it. And he'll still have to probably
pay for the legal costs of his failed defamation case.

He just may take his hat and go home.

What is known about this Judge ?

Hi Foxy,

"But we can't call him a rapist" Justice Lee had no problem referring to Lehrmann as a rapists, several times in his judgement. Saying; "“Mr Lehrmann raped Ms Higgins.”

G'day Indy,

"What is known about this Judge ?" PLENTY, Justice Michael Lee, paid up member of The Green Party and good mate of Albo's, real name Mohamed Mahmoud, arrived in Australia as an illegal Islamic boat person in 1927 after 43 years on Manus Island was released into the Australian community by mates down at the High Court, from there he terrorised good old blokes like YOU! After that, they made him a Supreme Court Judge, that was after a stint working cash in hand and getting the dole at the same time, in Abdul's Kebab Shop in South West Sydney. well known for waving Palestinian flags and stirring up Aboriginals around the joint.

That's the sort of thing you would like to hear Indy. Unfortunately for YOU its all UNTRUE!

Hi Paul,

LOL.

Love your creativeness.

I've just read the comment on the "Three Stooges,"
on page 1 of this discussion. I missed it earlier.

Someone who calls others "Stooges," must be totally
lacking the "zip-a-dee" part of their
"doo-dah" day.

Foxy you'll love this, Indy you'll hate it.

http://www.fedcourt.gov.au/about/judges/current-judges-appointment/current-judges/lee-j

humm ,it doesn't mention the job at the kebab shop, mores the pity.

Up there with the best legal brains in Australia. Surprisingly he might even be able to match it with the "Legal Eagle Old Farts" from the reactionary right on this forum.

What with Bruce raping Brittany and Bruce's alleged request for drugs and prostitutes before he'd agree to be interviewed by a TV network, Bruce seems to be giving Grubs a bad name.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-05/auerbach-evidence-lehrmann-defamation-case-network-ten-wilkinson/103672384

Here's hoping he has to pay costs for both parties.

Talk of a possible retrial on the rape charge for good ole' Bruce. A LIBERAL raping another LIBERAL, makes a change from LIBERAL's raping AUSTRALIA as they did for almost 10 years in office! Seems the LIBERAL cover up didn't work, the truth came out eventually.

Australia's oldest and greatest newspaper :) The Shovel, reports:

"Bruce Lehrmann Says He Cannot Recall if He Won or Lost Defamation Trial"

"Pointing out that it was a long time ago and that his memory isn’t perfect, former political staffer Bruce Lehrmann says he cannot remember the outcome of today’s defamation verdict, or even launching proceedings in the first place.

“I don’t recall ever initiating defamation action. And if I did, I certainly don’t have any recollection of losing the case,” he told journalists.

He said it was unreasonable for him to be expected to remember in detail something which happened dozens of minutes ago. “The supposed date of the findings – 15th April 2024 – is a very long time ago. I don’t even remember what I was doing yesterday,” he said.

After being shown video footage of the judge handing down the verdict, Lerhmann said he had been mistaken and now remembered launching defamation proceedings. He later denied ever saying he remembered launching defamation proceedings."

see http://theshovel.com.au/2024/04/15/bruce-lehrmann-says-he-cannot-recall-if-he-won-or-lost-defamation-trial/

Hi Mavs,

Bruce Lehrmann's case is certainly weird.

He should disappear from the spotlight and not make
any further comments.

Let the queers & deviates have their fun & let them pay for it too ! Keep us out of it & hands off the public coffers !

The circumstances look to me like she had the office drink spiked.

Walked in normally then in a relatively short space of time was unconscious and naked. I am really surprised that others have not suspected the same.

Hi Foxy,

Lehrmann might be busy.
Is he facing similar charges in other jurisdictions? Just asking.