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Now here is a Puzzle re the Terrorists and the Russians

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A couple of weeks ago a meeting of the Russian Deputy Foreign Minister
the PLO and the Palestinian Authority, Qatar and a group of Islamic
terrorist organisations met in Moscow and formed a "Technocrat" Government.
A string of letters was given for the terrorist organisations but I
did not see one I could identify as Islamic State. Hamas was present
but is to be an unattached member.

Is it possible that the attack in Moscow yesterday was a pay back for
interfering in Islamic terrorist business.
Posted by Bezza, Saturday, 23 March 2024 10:12:53 PM
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"Is it possible that the attack in Moscow yesterday was a pay back for
interfering in Islamic terrorist business."
- If you're asking that question then one would assume you've already bought into the 'American narrative'.
How did the US know within one hour who it was and who it wasn't?
18 months later and they don't know who blew up Nordstream. [Grins]
If they have intelligence they should hand it over the the Russians.

What have the Russians themselves actually said about things?
Why even waste your time giving a US narrative more than a pinch of salt at this point?

Don't members of ISIS usually martyr themselves?
They don't usually head straight for the Ukrainian border.

Does Ukraine not have a pattern of terrorist attacks against Russian citizens?
Does the Ukrainian leadership - many of whom have a fondness for NAZI ideology - not have past history in targeting Russian civilians, both in the Donbass for the past 8 years until Avdeevka was recently captured, and bombings and assassinations inside Russia against civilians?

If the answers to the above questions are yes, then why be so quick to listen to what Russia's adversaries say in the middle of a war between these parties?

Best to wait and see what Russia says in the wake of these captured men.
Too soon to rush to any judgements.

Here's a bit of stuff to dig into, might be relevant.
Crocus Center Legacy Of CIA And MI6 Compromises On Trump Since 2009
http://twitter.com/RealGeorgeWebb1/status/1771914245334258101
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 25 March 2024 8:04:24 AM
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The US argument ?
Not sure it is relevant.
The most significant event has been the formation of a formal
arrangement between the Russian government and the Terrorist organisations.
Why do you think they have done that ?
One later report said the terrorists were not heading for Ukraine but Belarus.
One prisoner interviewed by the Russians said he was from Tajikistan.
It is all a bit murky at present but in light of such a recent pact
being formed with the Russians Islamic state might have been upset
with the Russians interfering in their business.
Islamic state published the body cam video of the attack.
No one can at this time make definitive statements about the attack.
Of course the Ukrainians would be under suspicion, but they have
rockets that can reach Moscow so why bother with a risky operation ?
At this time it is time for conjections, not definitions.
Posted by Bezza, Monday, 25 March 2024 11:04:08 AM
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Well it didn't take long for AC to totally buy every morsel of the Putin narrative.

The US was warning its citizens abut a possible terrorist attack in Moscow several weeks ago which is why they knew who 'dunnit'.

Russia has been pissing ISIS off for some time now and even now they are leading attacks on ISIS's Syria forces almost daily, killing numbers that would make the IDF blush. But we don't hear about that because Arab deaths only matter to the usual suspects when they are killed by the evil 'Joos'.

Putin will of course try to hide his shame at ignoring the threat of attack by the Islamists and try to boost his nation's waning support for his war by implicating Ukraine. That there's little to no evidence won't matter, especially to those pre-disposed to just believing whatever propaganda comes out of the Kremlin.

That said, ISIS and its ideology are a stain on humanity and anyone involved in obliterating them is doing the world a favour
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 25 March 2024 12:23:42 PM
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Ah yes Mhaze, I had forgotten about the Russian war against ISIS in
Syria. It gets very murky. I am surprised that there been no talk on
the BBC let alone the ABC about the Technocratic government setup
by the Russians and the Palestinians and the Terrorists.
What is that all about ?
Posted by Bezza, Monday, 25 March 2024 9:59:14 PM
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"Well it didn't take long for AC to totally buy every morsel of the Putin narrative."
- I've barely even read the news on this yet.

Jihadists martyr themselves mhaze.
These people were headed strait out of Moscow towards the Ukrainian border.
Russians followed them, and when they realised beyond any doubt they were headed to Ukraine, pulled them over and detained them in an unpopulated area where there would be less chance of harm to civilians.

And it should be noted, that there is no way they could cross the border into Ukraine, unless an agreed safe zone for them to cross had already been arranged with the Ukrainian military.

So yes, this was a terrorist attack with which the Ukrainian military had prior knowledge and involvement in.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 10:30:32 AM
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