Like Monty Python's Holy Grail..."What is the weight of an African Swallow?" Laden or unladen. Any response will see us cast into the abyss below. Welcome to the new 'normal' for allowing migrants into Australia, & criminals et al let loose onto the streets. The lessons of France, Norway & Sweden seemingly have no effect on our politicians and bleeding heart self interest groups. So we will inevitably reap what we sow and allow to germinate. The only salvation will be China proclaiming Gum Shaan as 'New South Guangdong' in a few short years. Whatever your chosen deity...God Help Us !

Buying a Visa doesn't make one an immigrant it merely facilitates emigration.

Dear Indyvidual,

Your last three posts as well as the responses they received, are completely off-topic, because they deal with immigration, rather than with citizenship.

Citizenship is about admission into a society.
Any society should be able to set its membership terms and conditions as its sees fit.

That may include requiring candidates to learn a particular language and to pass a certain test, any test, thus we were discussing the usefulness or otherwise of the particular Australian citizenship test.

An aboriginal tribe, on the other hand, could have required as their acceptance test that the candidate shuts their eyes, dream that they are a bird, jump off a cliff and remain alive - that's their prerogative.

Now immigration is a completely different matter:

Both aboriginals and white Australians may have preferences as to who else lives in this continent, that is fine but it doesn't grant them any privilege to forcibly screen out the others. They may legitimately try to incentivise only those they like to come to arrive, possibly financially, possibly by offering them membership in their society and denying such membership from the others, but ultimately it is up to individuals and families to determine where they live, not to the people who happen to live there presently.

The Australian political class and so-called elites prefer foreigners to Australians. They are riddled with self-hatred, and think that the rest of us should feel the same.

We have to show that we are not by withholding our votes from the uni-party (Coalition and Labor), the Greens and the Teals - all self-haters or hating us.

Their latest show of cowardliness is the reinstating of Palestinian visa that had been cancelled, because one person plus a couple of dogs set up barking about it.

completely off-topic, because they deal with immigration, rather than with citizenship.
Yuyutsu,
They're more intertwined than you'll ever comprehend !

Yuyutsu,
btw. which group has had the most positive impact in your opinion. I believe blue collar workers did.