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The Forum > General Discussion > Is Australia a melting pot, a salad bowl, or a mosaic?

Is Australia a melting pot, a salad bowl, or a mosaic?

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Yuyutsu tells us "First we need definitions"...and then proceeds to provide not a one!!

Yuyutsu "Rome according to me was not a success story - most who lived under the Roman empire suffered and had a miserable life."

Well it did survive for more than 2 millennia - the longest empire in human history. Perhaps your understanding of Rome might be a tad lacking.
As to "suffered and had a miserable life", well they were different times. But things are all relative. Rome spent most of its history trying to hold back others from trying to gain entry into the Roman world. Things might not have been all roses in Rome but they were a hell of a lot better than outside the Rome world which is why outsiders wanted in. Still for some, if they didn't have mobile phones and smashed avocado toast, life must have been intolerable.

From Foxy: "Australia is fully committed to multiculturalism,"

No... the Australian political class is fully committed to multiculturalism. The people have never been asked.

Speaking of definitions.... Australia is unquestionably multicultural ie we have many cultures in the one polity.

But there's a difference between being multicultural and having multiculturalism which is a political policy. That policy tries to assert that all the multiple cultures are equal and equally valuable and where that is clearly not so, the government will make it so.

Its a policy that is doomed to fail.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 14 March 2024 6:40:58 AM
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mhaze- I thought it was a step in the right direction that Yuyutsu realised that definitions and a baseline are necessary before trying to come up with solutions. It's a classic error to try to solve a problem before understanding it- a "corollary to ignorance" is perhaps to assume that different people have the same definitions of phenomena. Trying to solve an algebra problem without saying v= velocity, t= time, s= displacement- instead just writing the equation v= s/t. Sometimes communication is in shorthand but if it's too brief it can lose meaning- and becomes perverse. Remind's me of the difference between a syllogism and an enthymeme.
Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 14 March 2024 8:22:46 AM
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Good Morning Folks,

So much to think about.

Of course national unity could become impossible if
people see themselves only as members of certain
ethnic or racial groups rather than as citizens of
a common country.

Also, there will always be those who will further want
to re-inforce the dominance of the dominant culture.
This could lead to a reaction in which the dominant
culture sees itself in need of recognition and
protection. Look at the rise of some of our political
parties - One Nation comes to mind.

Yet so far - One Nation remains a minority - and may well
disappear in time. Many cultural groups are eagerly
becoming part and parcel of this country - with few problems
thus far. Most cultures are adapting and becoming part of
the mosaic.

Government policies and programs have certainly helped

I may live in a bubble but I have not been aware of huge
problems amongst the people in the communities in which
I've lived. My experiences have all been positive.
And hopefully this will continue to be the case with the
right leadership of our country.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 14 March 2024 8:47:31 AM
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I view multiculturalism as a central characteristic of our
shared Australian identity alongside our First Nations
traditions and our British institutions. Our country's
identity continues to grow from pre-settlement to today and
into the future. And, I think our future with all of us
working together shall be a positive one. We need to make it
so for our grand-children and future generations.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 14 March 2024 10:03:05 AM
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I shall repeat what I posted on another discussion:

The work of a society and culture is never done. These
conversations about how we integrate people and how
we reconcile the past, present, and future are very
important.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 14 March 2024 10:06:03 AM
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Reconciliation will never be possible if people who aren't oed anything keep demanding compensation & apologies !
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 14 March 2024 11:55:07 AM
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