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http://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1758562342244086039
'Navalny in this video is asking MI6 Officer James William Thomas Ford for $10-20 Million a year to start a color revolution in Russia.
Just in case you wonder why he was arrested.'
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 17 February 2024 7:29:00 AM
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It was sad to hear of Alexei Navalny's death in prison.
But not unexpected. He was sentenced to the remote
penal colony north of the Arctic Circle for being a
fierce critic of Putin and as the record has shown
Putin does not tolerate any criticism. He does not care
who dies as long as he maintains his position at the top.

In the past his critics have either been poisoned, pushed
off buildings, or simply disappeared.

The death of Alexei Navalny in a penal colony reminds us
of the reality of Putin's regime. Navalny paid for his courage
with his life.

Moscow gives its usual excuses and propaganda
as do its supporters. Ukraine, Canada, Czech Republic,
France, Germany, Italy, the UK, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway,
Poland, Sweden, US, EU, NATO, Australia, to name just a few,
all disagree.

Mourners gather across cities in Europe and the US grieving on
the tragic death of Alexei Navalny from New York to Tblisi.

Our prayers are with his wife and family
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 17 February 2024 8:51:28 AM
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Good Morning Banjo,

Thank You for the links. Alexei Navalny's tragic death
reminds us of the reality of Putin's regime. Putin does
not tolerate any opposition as his past record of
killing them off shows. And as we know there will always
be misguided supporters who will make excuses for Putin's
behaviour - be they in Russia, the US, or elsewhere.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 17 February 2024 9:04:42 AM
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Hi Foxy,
"It was sad to hear of Alexei Navalny's death in prison."
- Yes it is sad, sad for him and sad for his wife and 2 kids.

Sure Putin could've done it, but I think he was worth more alive right now than dead than to create this kind of a furore so close to the Russian Presidential election.
It's just as likely if not more likely that western operatives thought he was more valuable to them dead than alive right now just before the Presidential election.

Putin's not going to lose the election.
- But Alexei Navalny dead right before the elections, you can see how the West might think this creates doubt in the minds of Russians and undermines Putin's legitimacy.
That's what they will say anyway.

It will reinforce western narratives: 'Putin bad'.
"We can never work with such a man"
Entrenches the division, works to the Wests advantage.
'No negotiations with Russia on Ukraine'
i.e. 'Keep sending Ukrainians to die'

You say 'criticism'

He was captured on film with audio requesting money from western MI6 agent to destabilise the country.
Even we would put someone like that in prison.
This is how the West conducts overthrows and you can be damn sure Russia acts to prevent the West doing this.

Navalny was completely discredited and had no more value for the West anyway, except dead before the Presidential elections.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
- What do you really think is likely going to happen, if you are a Russian politician taking money from western CIA and MI6 to create civil unrest and protests and plan to oust Putin for the sake of Western interests?

He was in prison, he certainly wasn't running for President.
It's not Navalny was going to win and take office.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 17 February 2024 9:39:38 AM
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Armchair Critic,

I totally disagree with your views.

It was Putin who invaded Ukraine. It is Putin who wants
to subjugate sovereign nations and restore the Soviet
Regime to the horror it was previously. It is Putin who gets rid
of all opposition does not allow a free press or free elections.

However, I don't wish to argue with you. I see no point.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 17 February 2024 10:32:05 AM
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We can agree to disagree, only I'm not sure what you base your opinion on.
If it had merit, I'd be agreeing.
I already showed you the footage where Putin stated he's not interested in the Baltics, or going further West.
- And I've been telling you this for almost 2 years.

I swear the Lithuanians and Latvians make 'fear of Russia' some kind of national purpose, where they wouldn't know what to do with themselves if they weren't pointlessly engaged in anti-Putin Russiaphobic mass hysteria.

"It was Putin who invaded Ukraine."
- Yes, but he was nicely pointing out for 15 years that NATO expansion eastwards was a red line for Russia, and not the deal agreed upon at the end of the cold war; but the West had to ignore their concerns and overthrow the democratically elected government of Ukraine and Putin tried to make agreements that safeguarded the Russian speaking people in the Donbass, but Zelensky who campaigned on making peace with Russia kept bombing them.
- What did you expect him to do?
The west forced him into a war just like they did the Japanese and many more nations.
And you're a guillible fool if you think otherwise.

"It is Putin who wants to subjugate sovereign nations and restore the Soviet Regime to the horror it was previously."
- No, he doesn't you just choose to be blind to what the West does, and in that ignorance you view Putin's actions as offensive instead of defensive.
"It is Putin who gets rid of all opposition does not allow a free press or free elections."
He wasn't opposition, he was in a gulag, he was no threat to Putin.
He never had significant support.
He was no more than Juan Guido who the West tried to install as President of Venezuela- just a agent of the West.
Putin just wants security for the Russian nation, but the West can't abide any nation with even the potential to rival them.

If you want some backstory of who he was, watch 5 or 10 mins of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t4mVcw4GqU
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 17 February 2024 1:26:08 PM
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