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Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 28 January 2024 12:40:04 PM
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Lots of Taiwanese, Ukrainian... and American refugees.
And lots of abortion-tourism too, I guess. - Get the tents and caravans ready... Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 28 January 2024 5:28:10 PM
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Hi Foxy,
Other than dragging us into WWIII, things should stay pretty normal for Australia under the Dangerous Doctor Donald. p/s The total nuclear destruction of the city of Melbourne, may cause a slight inconvenience for some, with the AFL Grand Final being shifted to Adelaide, if its still there. Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 29 January 2024 4:49:41 AM
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Is Paul1405 actually legal ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 29 January 2024 8:11:12 AM
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Hi Paul,
Australia is so dependent on the US for its security. With Trump as President and his "America First" attitude - this may be of concern. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 29 January 2024 9:08:22 AM
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Australian governments have related well to
US administrations in the past whether headed by moderate Democrats or mainstream Republicans. Under Trump Australia's policies regarding climate change, trade and regional security could be affected. Trump has certain long-term views. He's allergic to alliances, he's sympathetic to strong men like Putin, and his views echo isolationism. Australia need to be prepared for the economic impact. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 29 January 2024 9:55:48 AM
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The article, among other egregious errors says.. "he’ll do something like go onto Twitter and accuse Obama of wiretapping."
But, it seems the author is unaware that the Obamessiah regime DID wiretap the Trump campaign. The rest of the article is of a similar poor standard. Paul writes: "Other than dragging us into WWIII". Trump was the first US president in living memory to NOT involve the US in any new wars. But that's too hard for the likes of Paul to understand so he just reverts to ignorant regurgitation of failed left-wing memes. Posted by mhaze, Monday, 29 January 2024 11:58:07 AM
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For reasons I've explained elsewhere, its highly unlikely Trump will win. Or more exactly, even though he'll get the majority of votes legitimately lodged, he won't get a majority of votes countered.
The US established simply can't let an outsider win or their entire corrupt house of cards will collapse. My guess at this point is that Trump losses to Michelle Obama in a rigged election that finally finishes of any pretence to the US being a democracy. Posted by mhaze, Monday, 29 January 2024 12:02:07 PM
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mhaze,
Could you kindly stick to the topic. How will a Trump presidency affect Australia? Thank you. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 29 January 2024 1:31:18 PM
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You linked to the article. If you didn't want it critiqued, then you should have just plagiarised as usual.
If there is no Trump second term then the topic is rather superfluous. But if by some miracle Trump were to win, then it'd be wonderful for Australia. For a start it would potentially usher in a renewal of western civilisation. It would also usher in a renewal/ continuation of the US maintenance of freedom of the seas which is vital to a trading nation like Australia. Additionally a revival of the US economy would be of enormous benefit to the Australian economy which is looking sick as China contracts. Things like silly net zero targets would cease to be chased by the US and that would put pressure on us to do likewise and that'd be a boon to our economy. But most importantly, it would signal a chance to salvage the US democracy and therefore to retain democracy as the preferred system for free nations. Posted by mhaze, Monday, 29 January 2024 1:55:06 PM
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mhaze,
Being so positive is not your usual shtick. Interesting. We'll see how things pan out. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 29 January 2024 2:44:26 PM
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"Being so positive is not your usual shtick."
Do you mean 'positive' as in sure or 'positive' as in upbeat. Either way you're wrong but I'd just like to know in which way you're wrong. Posted by mhaze, Monday, 29 January 2024 6:58:33 PM
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Comment "Australian governments have related well to US administrations in the past whether headed by moderate Democrats or mainstream Republicans."
Answer- The Communist Left Democrats complain viciously about every Republican President since Reagan (warlord), Bush senior (can't remember), Bush junior (idiot), Trump (womaniser, bankrupt) but Australian Prime Ministers have to be civil with whoever the US people choose. The Communist vitriol seems nothing to do with who they are but everything to do with being a 'Conservative' in the eye's of the Woke/ Communist. Posted by Canem Malum, Monday, 29 January 2024 9:20:32 PM
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You have to be so far right, orbiting beyond the planet Pluto, if you believe the Democrat mob in America is "Communist". Then again the Kudos Kid is so far right he's off the scale.
Hi Foxy, This notion that Australia must rely on America for its "security" is something I don't believe. We should be a liberal democratic nation not beholding to any "school yard bully" such as America. Trump is the perfect school yard bully. Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 6:20:17 AM
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Hi Paul,
We lived and worked in the United States for close to ten years. Our children were born there. We got to see the workings of American politics having experienced several presidential elections and campaigns first hand. We got to see the workings of the country - and hence that's why we returned back home to Australia. There was much we didn't like. I find that the re-election of Donald Trump as US President a major concern. I prefer leaders who try to unite a nation not ones who revel in political fights. Leaders who don't use their presidential position to criticize a long list of people they see as enemies - from the news media to members of their own administration. to elected officials in both parties and even foreign heads of state. A president who shows his instability with more than 26,000 Tweets - giving us his unstable view on a range of issues until Twitter banned him from their platform. A president who was impeached twice and he was the first chief executive in more than 150 years to refuse to attend his successor's inauguration. Trust is not something that he brings forth in people. So, yes I am concerned as to what will happen if this man gets re-elected. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 8:52:34 AM
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Instability is his forte. He thrives on division.
He's unreliable and unpredictable. He thinks he's above the law. and much much more. His actions and past behaviour has not inspired trust. And his mental state is questionable. Can Australia rely on such an ally in the future? Our country may have to look elsewhere if this man gets in. It may amount to us crying for America - but staying well away. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 8:59:59 AM
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A few days ago the Biden regime designated the Houthis as a terrorist group due to their attacks on international shipping.
Trump had previously designated the Houthis as a terrorist organisation and had effectively put them into their shell. Biden, thinking he understood international affairs better than Trump and anxious to appease Iran had reversed Trump's policy. Now Biden/Blinken have reversed the original foolish reversal, not that anyone in the compliant media will mention it. What will a Trump presidency mean? It will mean that the enemies of the west will be put in their place. It will mean fewer wars - just like last time. Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 9:05:10 AM
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Hi Paul,
How closely would Australia want to work with the US under Trump? We probably would be taking different paths, especially if we're led by leaders like Peter Dutton. Trump is likely to drive a harder bargain on AUKUS and US policies in the Asia-Pacific especially in relation to China. US support for Ukraine could be problematic. We need to be prepared for the economic impact. More independent foreign policy would prevail for us and taking steps to reinforce our own democratic system. Our own regional security, our political culture, protecting our own democracy. Trump has certain long-term views. He's allergic to alliances, and he's sympathetic to strong men like Putin as I've stated earlier. His views echo isolationism. With him as US President, things would certainly change not only for Australia, but for the rest opf the world. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 9:12:51 AM
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Trump claims that he cares only for America (in truth, Donald Trump cares only about Donald Trump). This means he would forsake Taiwan, and Australia cannot save Taiwan on its own, cannot even try, not even together with India, Britain, Japan and a few other small countries.
That would at least save Australian blood, but it means that all we could still do is to help find the defeated Taiwanese people a new home, a portion of them here. Same probably for defeated Ukrainians, same probably for defeated American democrats who would flee here for their lives once Trump starts executing his revenge plan. Tourism will also be boosted by American women seeking abortion in Australia. Not much else will happen here otherwise. Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 12:13:21 PM
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Yuyutsu,
There's so much unpredictability regarding Trump. It's difficult to say what his moves will be. But I know they will be in his own interests and no one elses. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 12:30:16 PM
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I think it is the Woke/ Communist/ Democrats that thrive on division-Trump wants to bring people together making America great. Massive immigration is causing division in US society. Democrat Party Covid policies are creating scarcity of resources and supply- business groups desperately lobby to maintain logistics and supply chains. BLM protests close down retail distribution rendering sections of the US no mans land. A patchwork quilt of darkness melting into America. Wokeness is invading key parts of society to prepare it in expectation of the foreign Inscrutable God Emperor Xi- and his Golden Hordes of Communism.
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 12:49:01 PM
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I think this forum needs an "EYE ROLL"
button. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 1:03:54 PM
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"Trump is likely to drive a harder bargain on AUKUS"
Yeah. I hear he'll also cancel Christmas!! The thinking here goes - let's imagine some adverse decision and then say Trump will do it. This passes for rational thinking is some quarters. Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 2:04:20 PM
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The US is currently run by the most corrupt regime in its history. Indeed one of the most corrupt regimes in the history of any democratic country.
Trump and his supporters as well as the praetorian guard that attend him are well aware of this and are anxious to reverse what is a growing disaster for the nation and indeed western civilisation. The corrupt regime are also well aware of this and therefore cannot possible let him win lest all their nefarious deeds be investigated and revealed for the world to see. Consequently all levers of the deep state are being and will be utilised to ensure the MAGA revolution fails. And all the while the clueless left wing masses will continue to mouth the things they've been taught to say, without any understanding of what's really going on and, worse for them, no understanding of the threat to their life-style and that of their loved ones, victory for the current corrupt regime will be. They have seen a mere glimpse of their future with the movement of the illegal immigrants into the left leaning sanctuary cities and they are screaming in anger not realising it is those that they support who've done this and will continue to do it. The ruling elite of the Democrat party are determined to become a one-party state and the welfare of even those who support them is of little importance Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 2:26:42 PM
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Robert Reich writes:
"One word can sum up a Trump second-term: Vengeance!"" "He'd weaponize the Department of Justice to victimize his enemies." "He's vowed to investigate the media for 'treason' ." "He wants to "root out" leftists from our country calling them "vermin"." "If you're not horrified, then you're not paying attention. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 2:45:03 PM
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People in the US keep saying the right leader
will come along. I think theirs got hit by a truck. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 2:57:10 PM
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Is it really a democracy when one party in a 2 party system are more loyal to foreigners than existing citizens?
That's not 'Of the people, by the people, for the people' - You can call it 'democracy' but it's definitely not democracy, it's something else. - And the one and only party that is at least somewhat loyal to the citizens, is labelled racist, xenophobic, etc.. If a person displays a preference to traditional family values, they are labelled religious extremists... Nationalism is considered a sign of potential sovereign citizen extremism. Basically in the US the Democrats gain power unto themselves by combining all the minorities under the one unbrella, but they don't really care about these downtrodden people they claim to represent any more other gaining power for the elites and lobbyists / special interest groups and donors that they actually represent. These people gain and maintain power by creating and exploiting division. The average moron thinks they are standing up for the rights of downtrodden minorities, but that's not what's really happening at all. It's just an exercise in gaining and maintaining power through division within a 2 party system. Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 3:00:27 PM
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One word can sum up a Robert Reich opinion:
- Stupid! "He'd weaponize the Department of Justice to victimize his enemies." Really? How do they write this stuff with a straight face? What were they doing to Trump? Do they live in a world where they think the rest of us don't know what they were doing to Trump themselves or think we forgot? Does he have Downe Syndrome? Is there a valid reason for his brain farts? Has he been eating the chock chip ice cream with Joe Biden? "He's vowed to investigate the media for 'treason'." - Were they not shown to be withholding stories to help a political candidate (Biden) win a US election? "He wants to 'root out' leftists from our country calling them 'vermin'." - Did Hilary Clinton not herself campaign against the 'deplorables', saying they needed to be placed in re-education centres? Robert Reich had no problem supporting her. "She’ll be an excellent president for the system we now have, even though Bernie would be the best president for the system we need." http://www.vox.com/2016/5/19/11712146/robert-reich-bernie-sanders "If you're not horrified, then you're not paying attention." - I'm horrified that people are actually this stupid, ignorant and switched off they can't even pick up on their own hypocrisy... and that other people actually cluelessly listen to what these idiots say, and then repeat it without any apparent self-awareness of what they are actually repeating... Talk about 'Doubling down on stupid', well this is similarly stupid. We can call it - 'When dumb meets dumber' 'Trumps going to weaponize the Department of Justice to victimize his enemies.' Really? ...Pot. Kettle. Black. You'd have to be an idiot to even repeat this garbage sorry Foxy... - His enemies - the one's that have been after him since prior to 2016? That made up stories about Russian prostitutes so they could spy on his 2016 campaign? The people that probably organised the murder of Seth Rich? - Well then I certainly hope he succeeds in ousting those corrupt and treasonous individuals which should not be in government, should he win. Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 3:33:55 PM
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""He'd weaponize the Department of Justice to
victimize his enemies." That's just precious. Thinking the DOJ isn't already weaponised against the enemies of the current regime. The naivety is astounding. Explain to us again how you understand US politics. While you're at it explain to us how the Electoral College is never updated. Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 3:38:13 PM
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I view America as a two headed, one party state with a pretence at democracy, by falsely presenting the two heads as offering "alternatives" to each other, when in fact they are one in the same, with no substantive differences, there is no capacity for real and lasting change. American Capitalism is always the winner, the poor will remain poor, the rich will get richer, and injustices will prevail, regardless of which head is in the White House.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 3:45:08 PM
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post-truth mhaze,
Why on earth are you touting Trump as some kind of economic manager? His record shows he was anything but. Any gains that there made came directly from him increasing the budget deficit from $14.4 trillion to $21.6 trillion. The trade deficit he promise to bring down instead ballooned under Trump rising over 40%. He was at best ordinary and at worst diabolical. Do you really think that Australia would welcome someone so economically inept? That would be insane. Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 5:17:03 PM
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Hi Steele,
mhaze is a devout Trumpster, believing him to be the "New Messiah", with several other Trump sycophants on the forum, mhaze believes The dangerous Doctor Donald can do no wrong. If you searched America top to bottom, you couldn't find two greater clowns for President than Trump and Biden, that pair even make George Wobbleu look good! Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 6:46:41 PM
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Kudos mhaze. Thanks for the explanation and sticking to the point.
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 8:23:23 PM
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Kudos Armchair Critic.
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 8:24:41 PM
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I agree the debt continued to worsen significantly under Trump as it has done the last 4 US presidents.
"He was at best ordinary and at worst diabolical." 'I kind of agree with the 'at best ordinary' comment, in some ways. I don't think one can argue he was diabolical, only if one were to believe all the lies and 'Hate Trump' narrative could one falsely entertain that idea. Trump was ill prepared for what he was going to face with the Washington political class, and he surrounded himself with many people he shouldn't have. Even though he was pushed towards wars he mostly resisted paths of escalation, to his credit. He even made a concerted effort to go sit down and talk to Kim Jung Un, and you don't see Biden going over to sit down and talk to Putin, but I think Trump might. (Which is another reason why those against Trump can't allow him to become President, because they want the war in Ukraine against Russia to continue - as well as other neoconservative foreign policies) Many of the bad things said about Trump were unfounded as well as many of the criminal charges and accusations against him were politically motivated, lawfare. I think he was largely well meaning in wanting to try and fix many of the countries problems, but was often hamstrung by the Democrats and sometimes even by those in his government and party. I don't think he was responsible for an 'Insurrection on Jan 6' I think at worst he encouraged a semi-peaceful protest, (while legitimately questioning the results of the election). It was the FBI that acted as provocateurs and encouraged protesters to enter the building I didn't support all the things Trump did, in some ways he was a disappointment, failing to drain the swamp. I said that I think he was 'at best ordinary' in some ways, but in many other ways he was actually really good, not being afraid to call things (or people) out the way he saw them and the constant attacks he faced. Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 9:21:16 PM
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"Do you really think that Australia would welcome someone so economically inept?"
I don't know if I like these kinds of statements anymore... - That one single opinion - is representative of the entire country. Let's face it: Many people would be overjoyed if Trump came to Australia. Many others would loathe his presence and the media circus. And others probably couldn't care less whether he came here or not. I don't think any one person or belief is representative of the entire country, any more than we all agree on the same topics and issues on this forum. Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 9:31:52 PM
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innumerate SR wrote:
"Any gains that there made came directly from him increasing the budget deficit from $14.4 trillion to $21.6 trillion." In fact the budget deficit in 2017 was $20 trillion not $14T. What a dill. And SR's $21.6T figure is rubbish as well. Innumerate indeed. "Why on earth are you touting Trump as some kind of economic manager? " I didn't but if you can't argue the point, change it, eh SR? Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 7:56:12 AM
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Remember, the contest for president is between two people. The task is to choose the best of the two.
Apropos... the Ashley Biden diary was published on a site called the National File t'other day. You know, the diary that revealed Ashley believed she'd been sexualised at a young age by a family member, sexual molested at a young age and forced to have “probably not appropriate” showers with Joe. The website crashed. Behold the deep state at work. Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 8:12:47 AM
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From the increasingly innumerate SR....
"Any gains that there made came directly from him increasing the budget deficit from $14.4 trillion to $21.6 trillion." It turns out the numbers SR uses aren't deficit figures but Debt to the Penny figures which aren't even close to the same thing. Oh and when he says "budget deficit" he means Federal Debt, which aren't even close to the same thing, and even then he got both numbers wrong. Unlike SR I'm not innumerate but even I'm struggling to keep count of how many errors he's made in the past 24 hours.</grin> Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 11:53:09 AM
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Donald Trump introduced a new 12 inch doll of
himself that speaks seventeen different phrases, which is amazing, as that's five more than the real Donald Trump. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 12:10:56 PM
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We shouldn't be too hard on Trump. After all
he's racist, he's homophobic, he's xenophobic and he's sexist. He's the perfect Republican candidate. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 12:32:31 PM
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Foxy said "After all he's racist, he's homophobic, he's xenophobic
and he's sexist." Answer- I think Foxy is racist xenophobic (married someone from her own culture), homophobic (married a man), sexist (seemingly believes in fourth generation "me too"- all men are rapists- Rose MacGowen vs Harvey Weinstein- feminism). But I don't have a problem with these biases of Foxy- she should be free to choose her own priorities and principles- but I do object to "the Foxy pot calling the Traditionalist Trump kettle black" Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 2:47:19 PM
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More quotes aptly suited to - Donald Trump:
He is the only man I know who it can be said of him that his Achilles heel is in his mouth. ( Adapted from a quote by Sir James Killen). Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 3:04:29 PM
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He has love bites on his mirror.
( Kathy Lette). Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 3:08:16 PM
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Canem Malum twisted the earlier quote so
Trump's the victim. That's special. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 3:21:59 PM
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He knows nothing and thinks he knows everything.
That points clearly to a political career. (George Bernard Shaw). Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 3:34:01 PM
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If Trump has an Achilles heel would you say that makes him the great Greek European protector that wielded his spear to bring down the Asian Trojan's? Perhaps a bit of an analogy- but it could be accurate. Good on you for the recognition Foxy. Sounds a bit like the movie "Team America".
Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 6:48:24 PM
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Canem Malum,
Nah. Trump reminds me more of Hitler. Without the moustache. Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 1 February 2024 8:48:10 AM
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The appropriate movie for Trump would be not "Team
America," but the German - "Downfall." Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 1 February 2024 8:52:36 AM
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Remember, the contest for president is between two people. The task is to choose the best of the two.
"O’Keefe Media Group has released part two of their investigative series in Washington, DC, where an unwitting Biden White House whistleblower admitted that Joe Biden’s mental health is in decline, and there are closed-door discussions about how to remove Kamala Harris from the 2024 ticket without stirring a “scandal” and giving poor optics to the American people." "Though Biden’s condition has not been clinically diagnosed “yet,” .... Biden’s mental health is in decline and notes that his colleagues are aware. Speaking about what he’s heard in the Executive Office, Kraiger said, “They’re really concerned about it,”. Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 1 February 2024 11:46:21 AM
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Trump faces lots of uncertainty.
In the months before the convention according to the Brookings Institution - Trump may be convicted of one or more crimes. He could also lose the general election by more votes than he lost in 2020. Nikki Haley is a contender. Brookings tells us that running for a major party nomination in the US is a grinding and difficult process but Haley is 52 years old and with one campaign under her belt she could be a formidable candidate in 2028. It will be interesting to see how things pan out. One thing that she does have that Trump doesn't is - time. American presidential terms are 2 four year terms. Interesting times ahead. Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 1 February 2024 12:46:20 PM
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"Brookings tells us...."
Over the past 30 years, 96% of Brookings Institute political donations have gone to the Democrats. By all means we should listen to what they say!! </sarc> Only people who desperately want to be led down the garden path would follow Brookings. Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 1 February 2024 1:14:04 PM
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US media outlets have described Brookings as-
centrist, conservative, liberal, center-right, center-left. Its staff represent diverse points of view. The Economist described Brookings as "perhaps America's most prestigious think tank," and non-partisan. But hey, what do they know according to our resident know it all. Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 1 February 2024 2:04:02 PM
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Well I do know they donated to Democrats at a rate of 96% to 4% Republican. But these type of FACTS are ignored by those anxious to be led down the garden path.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 1 February 2024 2:58:47 PM
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Of course Ashley Biden wasn't the only female to be inappropriately mistreated by sleazy Joe (see above). Tara Reid said he'd assaulted her back in 1993 and lodged a complaint at that time. The complaint was suppressed by congress because, of course it was.
Reid raised her complaint again in 2019. The FBI formed a secret task force to harass and silence her to the point where she feared for her life and sought asylum overseas. Tara is now suing the FBI for $10 million for violating her rights. She won't win and you won't read about in the usual media. Quick, off to Tell_Me_What_I_Want_To_Hear.com to find a reason to ignore this. Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 1 February 2024 3:07:03 PM
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Things on the whole are much faster in America.
People don't "stand for election." They run for office. Posted by Foxy, Friday, 2 February 2024 9:27:20 AM
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As for Trump?
Thankfully, they don't hardly make 'em like him anymore. But just to be on the safe side, he should be castrated anyway. Posted by Foxy, Friday, 2 February 2024 9:36:21 AM
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Here is an opinion piece by Emma Shortis - do we
want Trump as our ally if he comes back? http://australiainstitue.org.au/post/if-trump-comes-back-do-we-want-him-as-our-ally/ Posted by Foxy, Friday, 2 February 2024 1:54:30 PM
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Sorry for the typo.
Here is the link again. It's worth a read: http://www.australiainstitute.org.au/post/if-trump-comes-back-do-we-want-him-as-our-ally/ Posted by Foxy, Friday, 2 February 2024 1:59:13 PM
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Here's another link on how Trump will affect us all:
http://www.economist.com/leaders/2023/11/16/donald-trump-poses-the-biggest-danger-to-the-world-in-2024 We should all be concerned. Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 3 February 2024 12:47:05 PM
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We now have some far right extremists in Australia singing the praises of The Dangerous Doctor Donald, on social media, including among these wackos are fundo religious nut jobs, and hard right politicians!
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 3 February 2024 6:31:06 PM
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Hi Paul,
I watched "The Insiders," this morning. Good to see sanity back again. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 4 February 2024 9:42:06 AM
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Phil Coorey, on the Insiders, predicted a 2024 election. Economically that makes sense since there's likely to be period in late '24 when the economic conditions will improve somewhat before worsening in the out years.
Of course, as the Reserve Bank showed over 2022, economic predictions are fraught and pretty much the only thing that is certain is that whatever you think is certain will certainly not happen. Still, Albanese running to the polls as soon as things look even slightly better, seems about right. Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 4 February 2024 4:18:39 PM
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The PM made it quote clear that he won't be calling for
an election any time soon. He has stated that he prefers governments to stay for their full terms. And that 3 year terms are too short. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 5 February 2024 8:07:55 AM
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Anyone watch "60 Minutes" last night?
It's insane that Trump "rocks out with his c**k out." And so many can't see him for what he is. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 5 February 2024 8:16:55 AM
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"The PM made it quote clear that he won't be calling for an election any time soon. "
Oh well if Albo said that, then that's it. After all, we all know his word is his bond!>/sarc> Posted by mhaze, Monday, 5 February 2024 8:18:16 AM
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mhaze,
Grow up. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 8:04:11 AM
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Trump tells the truth. He doesn't lie - right mhaze?
You're such a good judge of character. Lol. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 8:05:45 AM
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"Trump tells the truth. He doesn't lie - right mhaze?"
Oh no, Trump lies all the time. As does Biden ( http://twitter.com/mazemoore/status/1753588503383089489) As does Albanese (my word is my bond!!). As does pretty much every politician on the planet. Some people like to concentrate on these lies to justify their prejudices by only looking at one side of it. Others tend to look past that and look to the policies of the politicians to determine who is best qualified to lead. I prefer to be in the latter group. You should try it one day. Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 8:37:34 AM
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mhaze,
Go away. Please. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 9:32:46 AM
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Go away?
And miss all the fun? I don't think so. BTW, did you see the clip of Biden's lies? I know politicians lying distresses you so you must have been distraught given how unbiased you are. Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 1:58:14 PM
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Hi Foxy,
Don't forget mhaze was that economic clairvoyant, who told us when the official interest rate was at 0.1% that the next likely move would be UP! The guys an economic guru, a regular Maynard G Krabs when it comes to all thing economic. Hazy was on the forum recently crowing about his fantastic interest rate forecast. WOW! What next, is he going to tell us the sky is blue. Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 6:37:37 PM
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Just making stuff up again Paul? None of that happened. The funny thing is that when people like you and Foxy need to fabricate stories about how I got things wrong, it proves how much I get right.
Not that you'd understand that. Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 8 February 2024 5:35:54 AM
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Hi Paul,
Don't waste your time with mhaze. His support of Trump says it all. You must have better things to do with your time. I know I do. Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 8 February 2024 9:41:15 AM
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post-truth mhaze,
Doubling down on being a grub I see. You repeatedly claimed Biden's daughter had said in her diary that she rescheduled her showers. It didn't happen. Now you are bringing up Tara Reade who has far more telling issues with the truth than what you had claimed for Ms Higgins. Partisan hackery of the worst kind and you think you can get away with projecting that on to others? Don't be delusional. Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 8 February 2024 11:23:17 AM
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"Now you are bringing up Tara Reade who has far more telling issues with the truth..."
SR, You need to remember that on your side of the fence its mandatory to "Believe all Women". Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 8 February 2024 11:46:36 AM
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Dear Steele,
A Manhattan Jury has ordered Trump to pay $127 million to E. Jean Carroll. Then a federal appeals court has said that Trump is not immune from the things he did as President. Interesting times ahead. Posted by Foxy, Friday, 9 February 2024 9:12:03 AM
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"A Manhattan Jury has ordered Trump to pay $127 million
to E. Jean Carroll. Then a federal appeals court has said that Trump is not immune from the things he did as President." Do you actually know the full story behind this Foxy? I'm fairly sure this is the case where the government specifically changed the statute of limitations for no other reason that to target and charge Trump for an alleged crime where the statute of limitations had long expired. It's politically motivated lawfare against a political candidate. - An attempt to smear and tie him up in legal battles and outcomes. Let me try and find an article... Also Manhattan is NYC which is dominated by the Democratic Party, and there's genuine reason to argue Trump wouldn't get a fair trial there - given that they specifically changed the law to target him in the first place. http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/26/key-takeaways-trump-e-jean-carroll-trial Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 9 February 2024 11:01:40 AM
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"I'm fairly sure this is the case where the government specifically changed the statute of limitations for no other reason that to target and charge Trump for an alleged crime where the statute of limitations had long expired."
Absolutely true. Within minutes of the change of law, the suit was filed against Trump. Trump has/will appeal this up the court system until he gets to a court outside New York where he will get a fair hearing. Its very similar to the Pell case where he only got a fair trial once he got the proceedings out of Victoria. Meanwhile, the Special Council into Biden's keeping classified documents in his personal possession and passing on some of that classified information has decided not to charge Biden because...and this is unbelievable ... because he's too senile to be a valid witness or defendant. Remember, Trump had his home raided, his wife's underwear draw rifled through and his son's room upturned for this same 'crime'. But Biden is too senile to charge!! Posted by mhaze, Friday, 9 February 2024 1:06:07 PM
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The positive take from this is that when the public perceives unfair treatment of a person because of their beliefs, then it's the persecutors who tend to get turned on. Very evident with Pauline Hanson (I still vote for her for no other reason than the disgusting way she was treated), and it pretty much sums up cult leader Albo's leadership style.
You need to treat everyone equally and with respect: Prosecute for wrongdoing by all means, but persecute some because you don't like their beliefs whilst ignoring the criminal behaviour of others because they are your sort of people, then things become unstable. Posted by Fester, Friday, 9 February 2024 3:41:48 PM
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Trump is a man who's not taken responsibility for anything.
It's never his fault be it accusations from more than 26 women, a stolen election, the storming of the Capitol building - not his fault, and the list goes on despite people from his own staff admitting what he had asked them to do. It's all a plot against him? Sorry, with all due respect. Not buying it! Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 10 February 2024 8:19:20 AM
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Trump has gone far beyond the limits of what is
acceptable as a candidate for the highest office. He's shown by his actions that he's clearly unfit for the job. The following link explains further: http://vanityfair.com/news/2022/07/trump-should-never-be-allowed-in-white-house-again-guide Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 10 February 2024 10:20:29 AM
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"Others tend to look past that and look to the policies of the politicians to determine who is best qualified to lead.
I prefer to be in [that] group. You should try it one day." It seems to be beyond the capacity of some to understand, but this is a two-horse race. And one of the people in that race has been determined to be too senile to even defend themselves in court. Still for some people, having a senile old fool as president is preferable to mean tweets. What about the welfare of the country? Well, to those people, that runs a distant last. Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 10 February 2024 11:54:11 AM
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mhaze,
What is it about the Dangerous Doctor Donald that appeals to you so. It must be his shonky used car salesman image with all that criminal appeal that makes you such a devoted Trumpster. Or is it because he got caught in the ladies change room with his pants down?. The other old fart, Biden should be locked up in the Shady Pines Retirement Home,for old decrepit's, the blocks an embarrassment to himself. I love America and their long line of fools in the White House from Washington to Biden. Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 10 February 2024 12:29:19 PM
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Thank you for emphasizing my point Foxy. I don't like Trump either, but I still think that Biden and Trump are accorded very different legal scrutiny. What will be of consequence is what US citizens think and whether they believe voting in a senile old man a good idea. All the drugs they must pump into him might give Biden enough pep for a few soundbites, on occasion incoherent, but the rest of the time I think he'd be put in an armchair in a corner of the White House somewhere, dribbling away in oblivious senescence.
https://oversight.house.gov/blog/what-they-are-saying-the-bidens-changing-story-on-joe-bidens-involvement-in-family-business-dealings%ef%bf%bc/ Posted by Fester, Saturday, 10 February 2024 12:34:37 PM
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A senile old man might not serve out his full term.
He just might pass the mantle onto his deputy - knowing the country would be in safe hands. I agree with Banjo Paterson - Trump would not be capable of doing anything similar. Sadly the Republican Party is no longer the Party of Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Barry Goldwater, or even George H. W. Bush, Mitt Romney. John McCain, or Mike Pence. It's now the Trump Party run by a man who refused to engage in a peaceful transfer of power and invited a violent coup to stay in office. After all he's done, Trump is clearly unfit for office. There should be a political price to pay. However, in America winning matters. Trump has said - he does not like "losers,". People like John McCain who was captured and spent years being tortured in a Vietnamese prison camp. Trump stated he preferred people who were not captured. McCain was very ill, however, - made it quite clear that when he died - he did not want Trump to attend his funeral. McCain got his wish. It's a blessing that McCain is not around to see what has happened to the Republican Party. Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 10 February 2024 3:09:32 PM
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The following link gives a good insight into
John McCain. And the difference between Trump's version of McCain and the reality should hit home to many showing who the real "loser" id in both values and integrity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 10 February 2024 3:22:04 PM
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"What is it about the Dangerous Doctor Donald that appeals to you so. "
Go back and read what I've written about him since 2015. I'm not going to go over with you again since you're not really interested and it'd go over your head anyway. But to summarise, US (and therefore world) democracy is under attack by a leftist cabal and the US deep state and, at this point, the only thing standing in its way is Trump. Equally, the current junta leading the US and the deep state and pushing the world head-long into a protracted series of wars around the world and Trump, as he's already demonstrated, is the only one capable of bringing peace to the US and these troubled regions. Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 10 February 2024 3:56:39 PM
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Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 10 February 2024 4:18:49 PM
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Hi Foxy,
"People like John McCain who was captured and spent years being tortured in a Vietnamese prison camp. Trump stated he preferred people who were not captured." John McCain is a piece of dog crap. - He's a neocon more than a Republican. Uniparty. 'Johnny Blowbacks' nickname by the North Vietnamese was 'Songbird' because he couldn't keep his mouth shut when captured. His father was an Admiral if I remember correctly. The reason why the call him Johnny 'Blowback' was because of the way he used to light up the jet engine in his F3 Phantom on the deck, which eventually caused a fire and nearly completely destroyed the USS Forrestal. John McCan was a piece of human trash that spend his carreer travelling to foreign countries and providing arms to opposition groups to start conflicts related to US overthrows of other nations leaders. And he covered up the existence of Vietnam veterans that never made it home, When the US lost the war in Vietnam they agreed to pay reparations to the VC in order to get their captured serviceman back. The reparations were never paid and the missing serviceman never repatriated. Did you ever watch Rambo? There's an ugly real life truth to US servicemen left behind. That truth is 'John McCain'. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 11 February 2024 4:25:41 AM
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mhaze,
You're right about one thing, I'm not really interested in your Trumpist outbursts. Nor do I care if your man Trump returns to the White House. Trump is just as dangerous to world peace as Biden. Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 11 February 2024 4:48:23 AM
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F4 Phantom, I meant.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 11 February 2024 5:00:49 AM
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It seems that one man's hero is another's " piece of
dog crap," or "a piece of human trash." And is further seen as a "loser" for being captured and tortured by the enemy by a man who did everything he could to avoid being drafted. The New Yorker tells us that: "John McCain's conduct during nearly six years in a North Vietnamese prison, the infamous Hanoi Hilton, has become the stuff of legend. In 1968, less than a year after his navy bomber was shot down, the imprisoned McCain was abruptly offered unconditional release by the North Vietnamese." "Perhaps because his father has just been named commander of US Forces in the Pacific. McCain was still badly crippled from his crash and the poor medical treatment that followed, yet he adhered to the Prisoner Of War (POW) code of honour and refused to be repatriated ahead of American prisoners who had been in captivity longer than he." " His refusal was adament. He was tortured for his defiance and ultimately spent more than 2 years in solitary confinement. The abuse combined with the after effects of his injuries left him physically marked." "He could have avoided it all, but out of loyalty - and one has to name it - love for his comrades, he chose not to." On the other hand Donald Trump avoided being drafted. Did not serve in the military. But thought that anyone who was captured were "losers." Trump preferred people who were not captured. Thus insulting all military personnel - fighting for their country. "A piece of human trash?" Not John McCain. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 11 February 2024 9:42:15 AM
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They called him songbird because he sung like a canary.
They called him Johnny Blowback because he would light up the afterburners on deck, this set off another jet behind its munitions. - Almost destroyed the US leading supercarrier. Newspaper article 'Songbird' http://www.loc.gov/item/powmia/pwmaster_122107/ Senator McCain and the Vietnam War Prisoner of War Cover Up http://veteransforcommonsense.org/2008/09/21/senator-mccain-and-the-vietnam-war-prisoner-of-war-cover-up/ You think this guy was a hero. Who do you think the SDF were? Where did they come from? They were essentially, Sunni radicalists, probably members of ISIS that come across and swapped uniforms. These are the people this guy liked to arm to conduct overthrows. 'The Three Amigos' John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Joe Lieberman go hiking in Arizona http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/amigos-john-mccain-lindsey-graham-joe-lieberman-hiking/story?id=49318329 These three scumbags armed a lot of people they shouldn't have. They are not American heroes, they are America's shame. The fact he was in Vietnam has absolutely nothing to do with these issue. You think 'He must be a great man if Trump dislikes him'. He's not a great man, the world would've be a better place if he died in Vietnam, (as would've other Vietnam POW's) given his contribution to the world afterwards. Vietnam was a stupid war started on a lie, Gulf of Tonkin. And the US used it to perfect the targeting of civilians, as well as enrich the CIA through drug running via Air America. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Program Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 12 February 2024 6:31:26 AM
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Armchair Critic,
I totally disagree with your views. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 12 February 2024 8:47:42 AM
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First time i saw you show admiration for a Republican Foxy...
But him? Ugh. Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 12 February 2024 4:15:19 PM
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Trump, can't be any worse that the drunken slob Barnyard Joy, who was filmed lying in the gutter stoned on a combination of drugs and booze! And this guy wants to be considers as a future government minister! Me don't think so! Is this normal NOALITION behaviour?
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 12 February 2024 6:37:18 PM
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Barnaby's motto - 'get blotto'.
Think I'm gunna call him 'drunko' now Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 12 February 2024 9:32:12 PM
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There's so many here yabbering away
Much of a muchness in what they say Hyenas, monkeys, and slithering snakes While wise old owls try to raise the stakes But it's not the flies that we've annoyingly got It's the pesky mozzies we need to swat They're the ones who buzz around Instead of smiles creating frowns Trying to Draw blood as they try to eat Causing some to simply bleed So remember folks don't let them eat Mozzies are pests we shouldn't feed Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 9:35:22 AM
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As for Barnaby Joyce?
He should not have been allowed to go home alone. Medication and alcohol can have disastrous effects. This should be a lesson to everyone. If you're going to mix meds and alcohol - make sure that you get help getting home. Don't try to do it on your own. It could have been worse. He could have been run over or caused an accident and someone else to get hurt. It's no laughing matter. Alcohol and meds is a serious problem and should be treated seriously. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 10:18:18 AM
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Hi Foxy,
I don't know about the "meds" but red faced Barney is known to like a drop or three. Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 12:36:03 PM
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Dear Paul,
Our family has recently had a major setback regarding alcohol and meds combination with disastrous results. our family car was totalled, luckily no one was hurt. So I can understand the Barnaby Joyce experience. Drinking and taking medication is something you shouldn't do. And of course it's an even bigger problem if you love your drink and won't admit you've got a problem. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 9:34:27 AM
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How Will A Trump Presidency Affect Australia ? . Democratic backsliding is a trend that has been observed in American polity for over a century, long before the arrival of Trump on the political scene, but under his influence, it has accelerated dramatically. Democratic backsliding is a process of regime change towards autocracy that makes the exercise of political power more arbitrary and repressive. Backsliding in the US today is a largely Republican-led phenomenon, as attested by decisions made by the Supreme Court (especially those regarding money in politics and gerrymandering), attempts at election subversion, the concentration of political power, growing political violence and White identity politics. In 2021 the International Institute for Democracy and Electoral Assistance added the United States to their list of backsliding democracies, pointing to Trump's attempts to overturn the results of the 2020 election, as well as state voting laws that disproportionately impact minority groups. In 2023 a Freedom House report rated the U.S. 83 out of 100, an 11-point drop from its rating of 94 out of 100 in 2011. And the Economist Democracy Index continued to rate the USA in 2022 as a “flawed democracy” – unchanged since 2016. If Trump is re-elected president of the US in 2024, there’s no doubt whatsoever that he would immediately transform the so-called “flawed democracy” into an autocracy at his personal service. He has already vassalized the Republican Party. He has also emphatically warned all the NATO allies of the US in Europe how he would treat them if and when he becomes president. That does not leave much room for doubt as to what we in Australia should expect by way of treatment and consideration. Does it ? . Posted by Banjo Paterson, Thursday, 15 February 2024 3:04:35 AM
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YouGov in the US, an international online research data and analytics technology organisation, asked 27,797 U.S. adults in a poll in 2022 what the maximum age limit for elected officials should be. 58% said there should be a limit, 21% said there should not be a limit and 21% said they were not sure. Of the 58% who said there should be a limit the responses were : Age 60 – 24% Age 70 – 39% Age 80 – 23% Age 90 – 5% Various other Ages – 9% Age 70 received the highest mention. The US Constitution fixes the minimum age limit at 35 but no maximum age limit. Here is the link to the results of the survey : http://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/40527-elected-officials-maximum-age-limit-poll?redirect_from=%2Ftopics%2Fpolitics%2Farticles-reports%2F2022%2F01%2F19%2Felected-officials-maximum-age-limit-poll . Posted by Banjo Paterson, Thursday, 15 February 2024 8:48:18 AM
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They need term limits for senators.
Otherwise the bureaucracy becomes too entrenched and thinks it has more power than the commander in chief, and the Senators have too much free reign to act in the interests of the military industrial complex and endless wars and personal enrichment. Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 15 February 2024 9:29:31 AM
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All I am hoping for is that Trump is not re-elected.
That somehow in the US sanity will prevail. Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 15 February 2024 9:55:14 AM
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Miracles do happen, Foxy – but don’t hold your breath ! One thing you can count on is that Trump is too old to change. He will continue to think and act as he always has. If he stumbles and falls, it will be because he is too greedy. It will be his own doing ! Bullying, threatening and intimidating his enemies (i.e., everybody who is not a fan or follower) may not prove to be the most effective way to seduce future voters. By his own force, he can defeat himself “the gentle way” – which is the meaning of the word “judo” (from the Chinese jou-tao, or roudao). Stay calm, be brave, take courage and have confidence, Foxy. He is already headed in the right direction, like a bull in a china shop, to his own downfall. Trust him, Foxy. Trust Trump. He can do it ! You’ll see. . Posted by Banjo Paterson, Friday, 16 February 2024 1:13:58 AM
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"That somehow in the US sanity will prevail."
'Sanity' and 'Joe Biden'? Ewww - Even a 5 year can figure this one out. Time for a little bit of Sesame Street I think Foxy Classic Sesame Street - Kermit and Susan play 'One of these things is NOT like the other one' http://youtu.be/gCxrkl2igGY The guys senile, if he's unfit to stand as a witness he's unfit to be president, end of story. And the people have already spoken on Nikki Haley - They gave preference to 'None of the above' She's a Democrat in Republican clothing anyways... Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 16 February 2024 7:07:35 AM
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Thank You Banjo for your reassuring words.
I hope that you're right regarding Trump. We experienced American politics in over the decade that we worked and lived there. It was quite an education for us having been brought up in a sheltered environment in Oz. We returned home for the sake of our children. It's a decision we don't regret. ______________________________________________________________________ Armchair Critic, Joe Biden at least listens to his advisers and respects the rule of law, keeping promises and signed agreements, supporting allies, and American institutions, and places his country ahead of himself. I'd rather see a leader such as him with his hand on the nuclear button than someone who's simply nuts. I also think that Biden once elected will probably resign early and pass the mantle on to his Deputy knowing the country is in good hands. I think the only reason Biden is currently running is to keep a lunatic out of the White House - which shows that he's not senile. Posted by Foxy, Friday, 16 February 2024 8:55:55 AM
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"Joe Biden at least listens to his advisers and respects the rule of law"
- Yeah righto, if that's what you think... (Millions would disagree but who am I try try and convince you otherwise) Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 16 February 2024 11:22:15 AM
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Neither the Republicans or the Democrats are going to fix America.
They don't care about the border, the homeless, the drug-addicted, the veterans or anything. Ukraine and Israels borders yes, but not Americas or any of Americas problems, They would walk past these people in their communities and pretend they don't exist. Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 16 February 2024 12:30:05 PM
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Here you go Foxy, unrelated but it should be of interest to you.
Watch a minute or two. http://youtu.be/fOCWBhuDdDo?t=4037 Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 16 February 2024 9:36:26 PM
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Breaking News ... . Putin Under Fire After Alexei Navalny's Death : http://www.newsweek.com/putin-navalny-death-updates-reaction-russia-jail-1870612 Tucker Carlson Could Be 'Prosecuted' for Putin Interview : http://www.newsweek.com/tucker-carlson-could-prosecuted-putin-interview-lawyer-warns-1868148#:~:text=Tucker%20Carlson%20risks%20%22bogus%22%20prosecution,Putin%2C%20one%20legal%20expert%20warns. . Posted by Banjo Paterson, Friday, 16 February 2024 11:23:01 PM
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Putin Under Fire After Alexei Navalny's Death
- Cui Bono. Putin had nothing to gain by getting rid of him prior to the presidential election. The west however has everything to gain by getting rid of one of their own in order to try to cause civil unrest in Russian prior to the election. This will go on for months no doubt. America has shown it will do anything to try and hurt Russia, including killing half a million Ukrainians. The fact they are suggesting prosecuting Carlson shows what the West has become. Usually those who limit freedom of the press are called 'regimes' That is the west now. Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 17 February 2024 12:12:41 AM
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http://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1758562342244086039
'Navalny in this video is asking MI6 Officer James William Thomas Ford for $10-20 Million a year to start a color revolution in Russia. Just in case you wonder why he was arrested.' Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 17 February 2024 7:29:00 AM
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It was sad to hear of Alexei Navalny's death in prison.
But not unexpected. He was sentenced to the remote penal colony north of the Arctic Circle for being a fierce critic of Putin and as the record has shown Putin does not tolerate any criticism. He does not care who dies as long as he maintains his position at the top. In the past his critics have either been poisoned, pushed off buildings, or simply disappeared. The death of Alexei Navalny in a penal colony reminds us of the reality of Putin's regime. Navalny paid for his courage with his life. Moscow gives its usual excuses and propaganda as do its supporters. Ukraine, Canada, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Italy, the UK, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway, Poland, Sweden, US, EU, NATO, Australia, to name just a few, all disagree. Mourners gather across cities in Europe and the US grieving on the tragic death of Alexei Navalny from New York to Tblisi. Our prayers are with his wife and family Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 17 February 2024 8:51:28 AM
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Good Morning Banjo,
Thank You for the links. Alexei Navalny's tragic death reminds us of the reality of Putin's regime. Putin does not tolerate any opposition as his past record of killing them off shows. And as we know there will always be misguided supporters who will make excuses for Putin's behaviour - be they in Russia, the US, or elsewhere. Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 17 February 2024 9:04:42 AM
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Hi Foxy,
"It was sad to hear of Alexei Navalny's death in prison." - Yes it is sad, sad for him and sad for his wife and 2 kids. Sure Putin could've done it, but I think he was worth more alive right now than dead than to create this kind of a furore so close to the Russian Presidential election. It's just as likely if not more likely that western operatives thought he was more valuable to them dead than alive right now just before the Presidential election. Putin's not going to lose the election. - But Alexei Navalny dead right before the elections, you can see how the West might think this creates doubt in the minds of Russians and undermines Putin's legitimacy. That's what they will say anyway. It will reinforce western narratives: 'Putin bad'. "We can never work with such a man" Entrenches the division, works to the Wests advantage. 'No negotiations with Russia on Ukraine' i.e. 'Keep sending Ukrainians to die' You say 'criticism' He was captured on film with audio requesting money from western MI6 agent to destabilise the country. Even we would put someone like that in prison. This is how the West conducts overthrows and you can be damn sure Russia acts to prevent the West doing this. Navalny was completely discredited and had no more value for the West anyway, except dead before the Presidential elections. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. - What do you really think is likely going to happen, if you are a Russian politician taking money from western CIA and MI6 to create civil unrest and protests and plan to oust Putin for the sake of Western interests? He was in prison, he certainly wasn't running for President. It's not Navalny was going to win and take office. Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 17 February 2024 9:39:38 AM
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Armchair Critic,
I totally disagree with your views. It was Putin who invaded Ukraine. It is Putin who wants to subjugate sovereign nations and restore the Soviet Regime to the horror it was previously. It is Putin who gets rid of all opposition does not allow a free press or free elections. However, I don't wish to argue with you. I see no point. Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 17 February 2024 10:32:05 AM
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We can agree to disagree, only I'm not sure what you base your opinion on.
If it had merit, I'd be agreeing. I already showed you the footage where Putin stated he's not interested in the Baltics, or going further West. - And I've been telling you this for almost 2 years. I swear the Lithuanians and Latvians make 'fear of Russia' some kind of national purpose, where they wouldn't know what to do with themselves if they weren't pointlessly engaged in anti-Putin Russiaphobic mass hysteria. "It was Putin who invaded Ukraine." - Yes, but he was nicely pointing out for 15 years that NATO expansion eastwards was a red line for Russia, and not the deal agreed upon at the end of the cold war; but the West had to ignore their concerns and overthrow the democratically elected government of Ukraine and Putin tried to make agreements that safeguarded the Russian speaking people in the Donbass, but Zelensky who campaigned on making peace with Russia kept bombing them. - What did you expect him to do? The west forced him into a war just like they did the Japanese and many more nations. And you're a guillible fool if you think otherwise. "It is Putin who wants to subjugate sovereign nations and restore the Soviet Regime to the horror it was previously." - No, he doesn't you just choose to be blind to what the West does, and in that ignorance you view Putin's actions as offensive instead of defensive. "It is Putin who gets rid of all opposition does not allow a free press or free elections." He wasn't opposition, he was in a gulag, he was no threat to Putin. He never had significant support. He was no more than Juan Guido who the West tried to install as President of Venezuela- just a agent of the West. Putin just wants security for the Russian nation, but the West can't abide any nation with even the potential to rival them. If you want some backstory of who he was, watch 5 or 10 mins of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t4mVcw4GqU Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 17 February 2024 1:26:08 PM
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Armchair Critic,
Putin has been described - as a murderer, a killer, a KGB agent. He's certainly all of those things and more. Putin has created a regime under which his opponents are murdered, political prisoners are sent to Siberia for decades behind bars, minority rights are suppressed, opposition is quashed, foreign territory is forcefully annexed - to name just a few facts. I would prefer not to argue with you about this thug. The facts speak for themselves and- they will not change. Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 17 February 2024 2:54:28 PM
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Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 17 February 2024 5:46:51 PM
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Alexei Navalny had suffered three attacks orchestrated by the Kremlin in 2017, 2019 and 220 which all had lasting effects on his health. He died in prison in Siberia at the age of 47 after having spent 300 days in solitary confinement and being denied medical treatment to recover from a nerve agent attack carried out by the FSB in 2020. Though some may argue that the timing of Navalny's assassination may not be in the best interests of the accused, President Putin, the failure of the three previous attempts on the life of the victim attests to the slipshod manner they were carried out. If, indeed, the timing was wrong, the final assassination was no exception and was also slipshod. Having, therefore, carefully considered the facts of the case as well as the circumstantial and historical evidence of similar politically motivated assassinations of notable Russian political opponents, my verdict is that President Vladimir Putin is responsible for Alexei Navalny's Death, beyond a reasonable doubt. . Posted by Banjo Paterson, Sunday, 18 February 2024 3:07:27 AM
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Dear Banjo,
I agree totally. The facts speak for themselves. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 18 February 2024 9:28:39 AM
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Navalny's body should be returned to his family.
Not having done so tells us the reality of Putin's regime. Putin's childhood and youth - explains a great deal. While we can't change the Russian President we can educate people not to create more Putins by recognizing how childhood adversity impacts us throughout our lives and by integrating solutions into our education, justice, healthcare, and economic systems we may help prevent more thugs being made. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 18 February 2024 9:37:26 AM
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"The Man Without a Face: The unlikely Rise of Vladimir
Putin," by Masha Gessen, is about the rise of Putin and his reign. It's worth a read. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 18 February 2024 9:43:57 AM
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Dear Banjo,
Masha Gessen writing on Alexei Navalny's death in The New Yorker tells us that: "Alexei Navalny spent at least a decade standing up to the Kremlin when it seemed impossible. He was jailed and released. He was poisoned and survived. He was warned to stay away from Russia and didn't." "He was arrested in front of dozens of cameras, with millions of people watching. In person he was defiant and consistently funny. For 3 years his jailers put him in solitary confinement, cut off his access to and arrested his lawyers. They piled on sentence after sentence, sent him all the way across the world's largest country to serve out his time in the Arctic and still when he appeared on video in court, he laughed at his jailers." "He faced down the might of one of the world's cruelest states and the vengeance of one of the world's cruelest men. His promise was that he would outlive them and lead what he called the Beautiful Russia of the future." "On Friday, they killed him. He was 47 years old." Masha Gessen is an acclaimed Russian journalist and author of ten books of non-fiction. A long-time resident of Moscow. She now lives in New York. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 18 February 2024 10:14:31 AM
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"It's worth a read."
- Probably only if you want to taint your ability to reason with a little more bs sorry Foxy. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 18 February 2024 10:38:24 AM
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For all we know he may have killed himself for the cause, knowing that he would spend his life in a Russian prison anyway.
Either that or he took too many Covid booster shots. Russia won't mourn him. You may get a small odd protest here and there and talk of conspiracy for a few weeks, but the Russian people will move on. He won't be remembered for achieving anything in Russia. Just a foreign agent that wanted to destabilise and balkanise the country for the West. The west cares more about Russian Alexei Navalny than US citizen Gonzalo Lira, - who himself was tortured and died in a Ukrainian prison for speaking the truth. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 18 February 2024 10:47:18 AM
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"timing of Navalny's assassination"
"The facts speak for themselves" You pair are full of it, what facts? You're speculating, bloviating hot air up each others sphinkters... We don't even know how he died but somehow you pair have all the inside knowledge, - like Putin himself called you both to give you the inside scoop and his personal confession. No wonder this country is so full of crap. - It's because the people themselves are full of crap. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 18 February 2024 10:58:07 AM
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http://nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/ny-fraud-case-damages-pay-millions-judge-angoron-rcna135283
A judge fines Donald Trump more than $350 million, bans him from running businesses in New York for 3 years. The state Attorney General's office said that when factoring in pre-judgement interest, the amount exceeds $450 million. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 18 February 2024 11:24:56 AM
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Macleans - a Canadian magazine had an interesting article
on the disturbing parallels between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin. They pointed out that Trump more than admires Putin. He resembles Putin. They give as examples Trump's disdainful attacks on his opponents. Trump's promises of renewed national glory. The manipulation of the media. The appeal to the public's basest fears. It's pointed out how both men obsess over even the mildest criticism. Both like to revel publicly in their so called virility. Both focus exclusively on outcomes and slogans rather than genuine policies. We can only hope that in the United States there are enough legal safeguards to protect the nation from wannabe dictators like Trump. For Russia it's too late. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 18 February 2024 11:55:43 AM
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"Macleans - a Canadian magazine had an interesting article
on the disturbing parallels between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin." The Canadian parliament had a standing ovation for a NAZI war criminal, and Justin Trudeau invited him, lied about it, blamed and sacked the speaker when caught out, and now caught out for lying about it too. Op-ed's these days aren't worth the time of day. Their aim is to manipulate your opinion while cherry-picking and omitting facts. Western media is now largely founded on propaganda. BTW, Putin endorsed Biden, not Trump. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 18 February 2024 2:04:57 PM
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Armchair Critic,
Whatever rocks your little boat. I'm out! Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 18 February 2024 2:07:26 PM
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Trump and Putin have obviously coordinated their efforts to have Trump elected, the common objective revealed, so far, being to dismantle NATO. Just what’s in it for Trump remains to be seen. Maybe by becoming president, he will be able to cancel all his court cases and convictions, set up his own Mafia organisation like Putin’s and become as rich and powerful as Putin. According to Fortune magazine, some experts estimate that Putin may be the wealthiest man in the world with assets totalling up to $200 billion, though he came from a poor family (his mother was a factory worker and his father was a conscript in the Soviet Navy) and even today, as president, Vladimir Junior just earns a fairly paltry salary. Mind you, if their shenanigans work out as planned, old Donald the Devil should come out on top, seeing that The GDP of the ununited United States is 12 times the GDP of putrified Putin’s ruthless Russia. . Posted by Banjo Paterson, Monday, 19 February 2024 2:55:39 AM
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Vladimir Putin endorses Joe Biden for US president over Donald Trump
http://www.news.com.au/world/vladimir-putin-endorses-joe-biden-for-us-president-over-donald-trump/video/86b3a6c8dc21bf92dfa9d60c71206066 Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 19 February 2024 8:31:17 AM
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Trump Says He's Glad That Putin Prefers Biden to Win the 2024 Election ! http://www.newsweek.com/trump-says-hes-glad-that-putin-prefers-biden-win-2024-election-1870122 Great coordination ! . Posted by Banjo Paterson, Monday, 19 February 2024 8:39:59 AM
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Dear Banjo,
Thank You! Posted by Foxy, Monday, 19 February 2024 9:31:49 AM
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I'm not at all convinced there's any collusion.
I think Putin and Russian analysts have looked at both Trump and Biden and made a decision, that Biden's current course will result in a better outcome than Trump, but you could be right. Trump will try to put an end to the war and freeze the conflict, which will give the US neoconservatives a chance to come back and try to fight the war all over again later. Putin wants a decisive victory on it's terms... and Kharkiv and Odessa. Also I think Bidens deficit spending and foreign policies is having a significant negative impact on the US and it's allies, and they are losing the war in Ukraine, and countries are de-dollarising. Egypt just announced it is doing away with the US dollar. UK just officially went into recession, and Germany and Japan are contracting. History has also shown that NATO spending under Trump was much more than it was under Biden. Trump made them pay up. I reckon the Russians probably figure: 'Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake.' and: 'Better the devil you know' (in Biden) than the uncertainty of Trump policies. Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 19 February 2024 9:32:26 AM
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Dear Armchair Critic, . Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the reason for the collusion between Trump and Putin. However, I see the recent joint declarations of Trump and Putin as a manoeuvre to counter any suggestion that Trump is a traitor to the US. I am sure you will recall that when he was elected president in 2016, he sharply refuted the declarations of his own US intelligence agencies and sided with Putin in denying that Russia had interfered in the 2016 presidential election in his favour – in other words : that he owed his election to Putin. And in July last year, he boasted that if elected, he would settle the war with Ukraine in 24 hours. To achieve that, he would have to dismantle NATO (which he has already threatened to do by pulling the US out of the organisation) and stop all US military aid to Ukraine (which he has already ordered the Republicans to block). Naturally, it would be counterproductive for the presidential ambitions of the joint conniving conspirators, for Trump to be seen as a traitor to the US. That, of course, does not mean that the army of Russian hackers will cease waging cyber-warfare on the US, distilling political propaganda, misinformation, and disinformation for the benefit of Trump and to the detriment of Biden as they compete for the presidency. I expect we shall see evidence of this once again as the electoral campaign gets under full swing. . Posted by Banjo Paterson, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 3:12:12 AM
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Hi Banjo Patterson,
"...sided with Putin in denying that Russia had interfered in the 2016 presidential election" - I would've denied it too. Me personally, I don't think 'mass posting on social media' by 'Prigozhin's propaganda factory' really falls into the category of election interference, though others may disagree. - I think social media is fair game and I guarantee the West uses it to interfere in other countries elections, and they have been caught out red-handed showing that the US government themselves takes down content on social media it doesn't approve of with the Twitter / Hunter Biden laptop saga. If you were to ask me to contrast that against what Israel does - openly funds US election candidates and primaries any candidate that doesn't support Israel, without AIPAC even having to register as a foreign agent, well that definitely IS election interference. "To achieve that, he would have to dismantle NATO (which he has already threatened to do by pulling the US out of the organisation) and stop all US military aid to Ukraine (which he has already ordered the Republicans to block)." - I agree that the US will have to make huge concessions to Russia now to end the war in Ukraine. "That, of course, does not mean that the army of Russian hackers will cease waging cyber-warfare on the US, distilling political propaganda, misinformation, and disinformation for the benefit of Trump and to the detriment of Biden as they compete for the presidency." - You're probably right there, whatever misinformation and disinformation they are engaged in, I hardly think they'll stop. I have a feeling the actual reason Putin supports Biden over Trump, (if genuine) comes down to the issue of NATO funding. I don't think Russia trusts what Trump says, they know that in the past he was manipulated to take positions hostile to Russia. Let me see if I can find a video with a chart related to NATO funding. UK Recession CONFIRMED, Putin Prefers Biden For President, UKR $60 Billion Collapse http://youtu.be/SA9aMMXY1RA Skip to the 12 minute mark in this video. Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 6:53:17 PM
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US President is doing in the US in his campaign for the
Presidency. It appears that he's a front-runner for the
Republican nomination.
If he does get elected- what will it mean for Australia?
The following link gives us some thoughts:
http://warrane.unsw.edu.au/the-donald-trump-presidency-how-will-it-affect-australia/