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Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 19 February 2024 9:32:26 AM
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Dear Armchair Critic, . Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the reason for the collusion between Trump and Putin. However, I see the recent joint declarations of Trump and Putin as a manoeuvre to counter any suggestion that Trump is a traitor to the US. I am sure you will recall that when he was elected president in 2016, he sharply refuted the declarations of his own US intelligence agencies and sided with Putin in denying that Russia had interfered in the 2016 presidential election in his favour – in other words : that he owed his election to Putin. And in July last year, he boasted that if elected, he would settle the war with Ukraine in 24 hours. To achieve that, he would have to dismantle NATO (which he has already threatened to do by pulling the US out of the organisation) and stop all US military aid to Ukraine (which he has already ordered the Republicans to block). Naturally, it would be counterproductive for the presidential ambitions of the joint conniving conspirators, for Trump to be seen as a traitor to the US. That, of course, does not mean that the army of Russian hackers will cease waging cyber-warfare on the US, distilling political propaganda, misinformation, and disinformation for the benefit of Trump and to the detriment of Biden as they compete for the presidency. I expect we shall see evidence of this once again as the electoral campaign gets under full swing. . Posted by Banjo Paterson, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 3:12:12 AM
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Hi Banjo Patterson,
"...sided with Putin in denying that Russia had interfered in the 2016 presidential election" - I would've denied it too. Me personally, I don't think 'mass posting on social media' by 'Prigozhin's propaganda factory' really falls into the category of election interference, though others may disagree. - I think social media is fair game and I guarantee the West uses it to interfere in other countries elections, and they have been caught out red-handed showing that the US government themselves takes down content on social media it doesn't approve of with the Twitter / Hunter Biden laptop saga. If you were to ask me to contrast that against what Israel does - openly funds US election candidates and primaries any candidate that doesn't support Israel, without AIPAC even having to register as a foreign agent, well that definitely IS election interference. "To achieve that, he would have to dismantle NATO (which he has already threatened to do by pulling the US out of the organisation) and stop all US military aid to Ukraine (which he has already ordered the Republicans to block)." - I agree that the US will have to make huge concessions to Russia now to end the war in Ukraine. "That, of course, does not mean that the army of Russian hackers will cease waging cyber-warfare on the US, distilling political propaganda, misinformation, and disinformation for the benefit of Trump and to the detriment of Biden as they compete for the presidency." - You're probably right there, whatever misinformation and disinformation they are engaged in, I hardly think they'll stop. I have a feeling the actual reason Putin supports Biden over Trump, (if genuine) comes down to the issue of NATO funding. I don't think Russia trusts what Trump says, they know that in the past he was manipulated to take positions hostile to Russia. Let me see if I can find a video with a chart related to NATO funding. UK Recession CONFIRMED, Putin Prefers Biden For President, UKR $60 Billion Collapse http://youtu.be/SA9aMMXY1RA Skip to the 12 minute mark in this video. Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 6:53:17 PM
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I think Putin and Russian analysts have looked at both Trump and Biden and made a decision, that Biden's current course will result in a better outcome than Trump, but you could be right.
Trump will try to put an end to the war and freeze the conflict, which will give the US neoconservatives a chance to come back and try to fight the war all over again later.
Putin wants a decisive victory on it's terms... and Kharkiv and Odessa.
Also I think Bidens deficit spending and foreign policies is having a significant negative impact on the US and it's allies, and they are losing the war in Ukraine, and countries are de-dollarising.
Egypt just announced it is doing away with the US dollar.
UK just officially went into recession, and Germany and Japan are contracting.
History has also shown that NATO spending under Trump was much more than it was under Biden.
Trump made them pay up.
I reckon the Russians probably figure:
'Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake.' and:
'Better the devil you know' (in Biden) than the uncertainty of Trump policies.