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Managing China's decline

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I don't think you understand manufacturing.
Manufacturing is a socially evolving process built up over time which regenerates itself through continuity over decades through development and teaching.
When you discard that ability in search of momentary profit you are effectively throwing away decades of evolution. and with it to exercise self determination.
You don't pick up a manufacturing base just because you have an epiphany.
China's manufacturing capacity didn't just appear overnight but Australia's discarding of it's own potential did.
Australia literally threw away it's ability for a few dollars more
The Chinese are now manufacturing the advanced machinery that allows other countries, including Australia, to establish or re establish their manufacturing bases.
And more power to them because they earned it whilst we just threw it away because the shareholders wanted a greater return on their shares
Australia's companies are long gone, never to be seen for at least 60 years even if it were to make a concerted effort today.
The Chinese took nothing, we begged them to take it so please spare me as to how the Chinese took it.
The Chinese goods imported into Australia today are not the best that China is capable of.
They are less than, but are the most profitable to the Australian importers and retailers because the majority of Australians have no discernment or understanding of quality.
So if you want to bitch about Chinese poor quality blame the importers and their method of selection.
Bunnings, and the like are about profit, so it's buyer beware.
I don't see Apple complaining of poor quality.
Posted by Special Delivery, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 2:51:22 PM
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so please spare me as to how the Chinese took it.
Special Delivery,
Where did I imply that ? You’re starting to sound like Paul1405. What I did imply is that the quick buck mentality & the mentality that educated people are automatically the answer when in fact the majority of them are of no use. I don’t waver from my view that actual producing of necessary commodities is what keeps an economy going not mere fanciful, utterly ineffectual pointless rhetoric by some educated expert. It’s those educated whose thinking results in actual products & services that are valuable but not those intellectuals full of self importance.
As I have stated countless times too many non achievers are getting paid way too much of peoples’ Tax Dollars which has created the imbalance that is now a huge threat to every economy including China’s.
Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 7:55:40 PM
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Indyvidual,

You make such sweeping statements without substance, that invite all to question your purpose, other than to bleat the obvious and apportion blame to whoever suits.
Money, and those that want more of it than they need, is responsible, not intellectuals as a collective.
You seem to think that an education has no place of value in your fixated little world
The common Australian perception of the middle classes, and lower, is that China took away their livelihood.
I don't recall having said that you stated it but it didn't prevent you to insinuate yourself into the frame.
So since you mention 'non achievers' how is a non achiever identified in your world.
I'm sure those on this forum would like to know.
Posted by Special Delivery, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 2:24:08 PM
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how is a non achiever identified in your world

Special Delivery,
To me the non achievers are generally found in bureaucrat circles & by that I mean people on generous salaries & benefits who by not doing what they were engaged for, cause much harm to society. Those who due to lack of merit & poor mentality maggot off the Taxpayers by bleating for funding with the help of the bureaucrats to whom integrity is a foreign word as is the notion of decency.
I find it impossible to define a successful person but I think someone who can make a living from something they enjoy & through merit. Definitely & generally not from funding from the Govt coffers courtesy of indifferent bureaucrats.
Posted by Indyvidual, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 4:55:50 PM
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You seem to think that an education has no place of value in your fixated little world.
Special Delivery,
When did I ever say that . Education is vital, without it we’d be going backwards at the same rate as we would under purely intellectual rule. Do not even try to put intellectual thinkers into the same category as educated common sense people. The latter aren’t the ones that gave us political correctness, dysfunctional authority & nonsensical social reforms. No Sir, all that crap is heaped upon us by intellectuals devoid of sense. That is not education, that’s downright sabotage of society. Not just here, even China except that Chinese people have thousands of years of culture which will end up being their safety net. Wester society has enjoyed so much individual freedom that it resulted in collective decline in every way but without a cultural safety net.
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 15 December 2023 8:01:55 PM
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One of the major costs in manufacturing is labour costs. That is why manufacturing has been moving to countries that pay low wages. China's wages have been increasing forcing much of the manufacturing to move to India, Vietnam etc.
Posted by shadowminister, Sunday, 17 December 2023 5:46:59 AM
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