Alan Jones makes no bones about being defamed
There's nothing wrong with a good grope
For that he can't be blamed
There's many who'll fiddle the night away
They don't have to ask they think it's OK
If you really believe this to be true
Don't complain when it happens to you.

Foxy wrote: "I did not decide his guilt. His actions did."

But but but...there's no evidence he did the things he's accused of. You just decided he did them based on your prejudices and therefore you have indeed decided his guilt.

You can't simultaneously assert that he did these things while saying you haven't concluded whether he did these things. Well, you can since you have. But you can't do it and expect to escape the hypocrisy being noted.

I don't know if he did what is alleged and care even less. I most certainly won't and don't make a judgement based on prejudice sans evidence.

As to Shorten, the allegations against him were much more actionable than anything currently against Jones. For a start, his victim was prepared to go to the police. Yet, the whole thing was hushed up by a compliant media until the police investigation was completed. The first time the public heard of it was when they were told he was found to not have a case to answer. Compare that to Lehrmann, Jones or Porter among others. Two tiered justice system indeed.

There's documented evidence against Alan Jones in
the book by Chris Masters - "Jonestown," 2006.
Evidence for child grooming which was well known
in Parramatta where I grew up and where Jones
taught at The King's School.

There's extracts in the book detailing the child
grooming. Other allegations include that Alan Jones sent
love letters to school boys, had boys in his room late at
night, perved on them in the shower and more.
All this caused Jones's forced resignation in 1973.

Now five young men have come forward. Including his
butler who worked for Jones for 18 years and claims he
has stories to tell that would make your hair curl. Plus
another employee who's willing to testify.

A Royal Commission should be held to investigate this
matter - and if all these allegations are false - lets
see Jones vindicated.

As for Bill Shorten? That case was closed and the woman in
question did not have grounds for the police to proceed.

This is the perfect thread for the forums serial paedophile poster. The strange one who has posted 100's of references to paedophilia and paedophiles on here.

Then there was James Hayward (55) COALITION MP from the NATIONAL PARTY jailed in October 2023 for 2 years and 9 months for molesting a six year girl over a period of 2 years. The poster shadowminister described Hayward's revolting behaviour as a "minor transgression" the Judge didn't think so describing it as "serious offending". shadowminster, why do you believe old men sexually molesting young children is only a minor transgression?

Foxy,

"If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging." ~ Will Rodgers

Paul follows Peter Singer in the Greens - say no more.