The evidence against both Pell deceased, and Jones soon to be, is rather overwhelming. Pell was a roomy of the notorious Catholic paedophile priest Gerald Ridsdale. Remember Ridsdale had a stack of pornographic magazines in the room, Pell claimed he never saw them, more likely he never had his head out of them. Jones has a very long rap sheet but through power and influence, particularly in the Liberal Party both had avoid conviction. I don't know why anyone is bothering to defend this pair of grubs.

Foxy,

By MAEVE MCGREGOR's argument, Bill Shorten was never found innocent nor any of the 1000s of people found not guilty or whose case was dismissed for lack of evidence. No court ever finds anyone innocent as the assumption is that anyone who is not guilty is innocent.

In short, it is a facile argument by someone with no substance.

100% of the judges outside the Victorian bubble found that the evidence was well below the standard needed for a conviction and that there was a very high probability that an INNOCENT man had been convicted. Moreover, it was a severe indictment of the Victorian judge's competence.

Hi Soap Box.

Welcome to the Forum.

I agree with your take on Pell and Jones.

As for their supporters?

I give their opinions all the consideration that they
deserve. (smile).