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Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 11 December 2023 12:30:06 AM
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Hello Syoksya, Foxy - hope all is well in your neck of the woods. Thanks for the legal "definitions" earlier in the thread...as a legal person I am still, 21 years after studying law, trying to unpack what the definition of what a "reasonable person" is, along with the 72 (currently) recognised gender descriptors. There are of course, as most would realise, 2 systems of justice operating in Australia. Both at the state/territory jurisdictional level and to a lesser degree, within the Federal (High Court). The first 'system of justice' is for those who are able to provide adequate funds and this with connections, whether they be political, social or personal. The 'second system' is for those who are unable to provide funds to secure adequate representation through Kings Councel, well versed lawyer/representation etc. On rare occasions, the latter may find pro bono representation, but rarely indeed. For the year I practiced in law, the long hours on case loads, often past midnight, as single parent and junior partner, it meant representing in the Local/Magistrates Court what I will refer to as: "Latte quaffing Tossers in Armani/Carla Zampatti suits". At the end of the day, & in my late 40's, it wasn't what I'd ultimately decided would be a career path. Throughout time, many a "guilty person" has been hanged for a crime they did not commit. Law/justice/jurisprudence its vagaries and foibles, will no doubt convict many more "innocent" people as time marches on. Fortunately the sciences and particularly genetic profiling in the solving - by advances in forensic science are catching and convicting some of the least savoury amonst us.
Posted by Albie Manton in Darwin, Monday, 11 December 2023 3:38:49 PM
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Shadow Minister,
http://theconversation.com/how-george-pell-won-in-the-high-court-on-a-legal-technicality-133156 Posted by Foxy, Monday, 11 December 2023 3:55:34 PM
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'Otherwise, Shorten got off on the same legal technicality.'
What has a legal technicality got to do with right and wrong? Answer: it promotes confusion through interpretation and nullifies intent. You won't find such technicalities in state v indigenous because 'think of a way to make him innocent' will never apply in this, and other lower socio economic cases. Posted by Special Delivery, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 1:58:38 PM
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Pell was found not guilty because the offence was impossible at the
time as he was at the front of the Cathedral and the room said to be involved was in use by others. Posted by Bezza, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 10:13:16 PM
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Pell is dead, and despite some peoples fervent hope/belief, Pell like them is not coming back. Sure Pell got off in the second highest court in the land, the High Court, but was found guilty of being a paedophile in the 'Court of Public Opinion' of which we are all jurors.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 5:32:04 AM
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Stop lying, Pell did not get off on a legal "technicality". The high court unanimously threw the case out of court because of insufficient evidence which is a blight on the Victorian judges that ruled otherwise.
Otherwise, Shorten got off on the same legal technicality.