"Governments are not careful enough when they appoint judges." What's been said is governments should be appointing judges who rather than apply the law, will be complaint with the governments political policy. Of course ttbn favours an extreme far right radical government appointing their own bunch of Roland Freisler's to the judiciary.

mhaze,

The High Court did not find Pell to be innocent. The High Court found that the Victorian Court of Appeal did not properly consider the evidence that was inconsistent with the complainant's account, and that it failed to explain how the jury could have found Pell guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

Syoksya,

"The High Court did not find Pell to be innocent."

Well yes, he was always innocent. Innocent until proven guilty. The HC found that he wasn't proven guilty, therefore he was innocent.

mhaze,

No, in a court of law, "not guilty" is not the same as "innocent." They have distinct legal meanings. Innocence refers to the actual state of not having committed a crime, and implies that the person did not engage in the wrongful act. "Not Guilty" a legal finding by a jury or judge in a criminal case, and means that the prosecution has not met its burden of proving the defendant's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Further to this, you erroneously conflate the presumption of innocence with a finding of innocence. These are two distinct concepts in law. The presumption of innocence is a starting point and a shield protecting individuals from being treated as guilty before their guilt is proven. A finding of innocence is the final outcome, a formal declaration of legal innocence based on the evidence presented in court.

Syoksya,

In Aus/English law, there is only guilty or innocent and one is innocent until proven guilty. Pell was found innocent, Bill Shorten is similarly not guilty of rape. Albozo is not guilty of corruption etc.

For left whingers, conservatives are always guilty even when proven innocent. Fortunately, their opinion is worthless.

shadowminister,

I was referring to Australian law. What I said applies to Australian law. Thanks.