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For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

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Baldrick also supports the Russian terrorists that deliberately target civilian areas in an illegal and unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.
Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 14 December 2023 11:40:14 AM
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" Israel not have any chance of a good relationship with it's neighbours going forward."

Oh No...and relations were so good before! </sarc>
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 14 December 2023 1:54:25 PM
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Simon Tisdall asks the question - "Who will save Israel?"

He tells us that - it won't be the United States with
all of its fire-power. It won't be the legions of
European diplomats Arab mediators or the United Nations.
Nor the recent array of visiting diplomats and national
leaders who come and quickly go voicing their undying
solidarity as they head for the door.

Tisdall tells us that only Israel can save Israel.

He says that the relentless bombardment of Gaza has not
stopped Hamas rocket attacks. And he asks -
"So what comes now?"

Everyone is aware that the 75 year old Palestinian question
must be finally resolved. Things have come to a head.
Tisdall is right when he tells us that after the Hamas
atrocities, after Gaza, after all this pain and suffering,
all this moment of national jeopardy, international opinion,
and common sense - will demand nothing less for Israel and
for the Palestinians that things cannot go back to the way
they were.

It is strange as Tisdall says that this crisis has unexpectedly
revived the 2002 Arab Peace initiative for a two-state solution.
We can only hope that Netanyahu and his government will agree.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 15 December 2023 10:46:47 AM
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Dear Foxy,

«We can only hope that Netanyahu and his government will agree.»

I would believe them to agree the day the lion eats grass.
Never mind, it will not be for Netanyahu to decide, because he won't be there.
Once the war ends, if he fails to resign on his own then even his own party would kick him out.
Any decent leader would commit harakiri in his place!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 15 December 2023 12:14:58 PM
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I've asked the question several times and the Hamas cheer-squad have constantly dodged it.

Five times in the past 75 years, a two state solution has been formally proposed, accepted by Israel and rejected by the people who now call themselves Palestinians. Usually that rejection is followed by some sort of violence.

So question: what makes you think the Arabs will accept a two state solution this time?

The notion that there can be a two state solution while ever the Arabs think they can win it all from the river to the sea, is the victory of naivety over ignorance.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 15 December 2023 2:40:41 PM
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Hi Yuyutsu,

I too am optimistic that things will improve once Netanyahu
leaves office.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 15 December 2023 3:26:05 PM
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