Israel seems to be trying hard to get Iran or Hezbollah to escalate.
I think creating a bigger war is what Netanyahus aiming for right now.

I think Iran, Hezbollah and the US do not want a wider conflict at this time.
Houthis are like cowboys of the Islam world.
They don't care, they're up for a fight.

I think many of the Wests adversaries have woken up to their games though.
They have all figured out the Western playbook on conducting coups, and found ways around US sanctions, whilst de-dollarisation continues.

Israel would've blown up all those people at the funeral to enrage Iran into retaliating - possibly against civilians, Israel is trying to kill Iranian military and also put Iran off balance in the hope they make a mistake, maybe Israel could even blow up some of it's own people and say Iran did it, anything to push things in a direction of continued or further escalation.

«Maybe the Jewish people should've gone to Uganda instead»

Are you referring to the Jewish people, or to the Zionists who tried to escape the Jewish fate?

The Jewish people as such did not go to Israel, they mostly stayed put and were taken to the gas chambers - that I suppose solved half your problem.

The Zionists on the other hand, sought a place to go where they will no longer be harassed by your kind.

Since the land of Israel did not fulfil that promise, I was previously thinking that indeed, Uganda could have been a better and peaceful solution, but following your [false and baseless] comment:

«, oh wait, then there would've been 75 years of murdering and ethnic cleansing of innocent Ugandans, driving them off the land, raping, burning, murdering them and putting them in cages, killing kids etc.
- Wouldn't have mattered where these people went, seems there would've been dramas.
Always was, and probably always will be.»

I changed my mind and now believe that the Zionists did well by settling Israel rather than Uganda, since they could not have gotten rid of your kind anyway.

Baldrick,

You are the most vicious Jew-hater that I have seen on OLO ever. The attack in Iran was claimed by ISIS and the suicide bomber was identified by Iran as a Muslim extremist. Moron.

Why should Jews not live in their homeland?

Dear ShadowMinister,

«the most vicious Jew-hater that I have seen on OLO ever.»

Yes, you don't find such admissions every day and it can be fascinating to research the reasons(s) for it.

But I rather that be done on a separate thread, because the topic here is Hamas and Gazan misery.

The history of Zionism is the history of young people who were fed up of being treated as Jews, who wanted to shake off that stigma and be seen like any other humans and for that they were willing to go to great lengths and make significant sacrifices.

That seems more like a dream now:
Armchair Critic hates Israel because according to him Israelis are "the Jews" whom he dislikes, while you love Israel because for you Israelis are "the Jews" whom you like. For most Israelis, however, the insult and despair is the same: it means that all their efforts have gone waste and despite all they have done, the world still sees them as "Jews"!

«Why should Jews not live in their homeland?»

Because the Israelis have been their first!

Until October 6th, there were serious conversations within Israel about a compromise that would split the country between Israelis and Jews, as the two cannot get along well together.

Accordingly, the state of Israel will be limited to the northern Mediterranean shores, lowlands and the Galilee, with Tel Aviv as capital, and the state of Judea will include southern and eastern Israel, including the West Bank, with Jerusalem as its capital.

These conversations are now on a long hold due to the war (giving rise to possibly suspect Netanyahu of covertly colluding with Hamas on October 7th in order to silence them). It may perhaps take a decade till they resume, but they eventually will: the same true Zionists who left Europe in hope of becoming free people that will never again be addressed as "Jews", will not agree to be bundled with and shamed for the madness of the Messianic racist Jews who later piggybacked them.

"Are you referring to the Jewish people, or to the Zionists who tried to escape the Jewish fate?"
- I'm just saying that if Jews or Zionist never chose to go back to Palestine, the problems may not have ever existed, let alone continue on for 100+ years.

Stop expecting me to use correct terms Zionist / Jew / Israeli when Israels position towards Palestinians are that they are ALL animals.
- If they're ALL animals even the kids, then you're all as bad as settlers or Netanyahu.
Do unto others.
If Israel can't differentiate between combatants and women / kids, or Hamas and church ladies don't expect me to differentiate between all the different groups in your society.

"The Jewish people as such did not go to Israel, they mostly stayed put and were taken to the gas chambers - that I suppose solved half your problem."
- I've never once said I support the harm of innocent people.
I've stated the opposite many times, including when both innocent Israelis and Palestinians were needlessly killed.

"The Zionists on the other hand, sought a place to go where they will no longer be harassed by your kind."

My kind?
So now it's 'us and them' hey? At least now you're being honest.
Do you know that when you say that 'your kind' to me Yuyutsu, now I also have to think of and refer to you as 'your kind' as well?
You've declared the distinction that we're not the same.
The disunity is complete.
It's all good and well to want a safe place or home for oneself, except people were already living in the places they wanted to go to start the Jewish state.

I'm a person of ethics.
Everybody has a right to live however they choose so long as it does not harm others.
That means you don't go to someone else's home and cause problems.
You lot chose to go back to Palestine, it's not my fault you can't find a way to get along with your neighbours but instead did everything to piss them off.

[Cont.]
I've been honest.
I don't like the messianic aspects of the Jewish religion, and I don't like the subjagation and mistreatment of the Palestinian people, I don't like disproportionate power in the media, or lobby groups that aim to gain an advantage in democracy by buying elected representatives; or the idea of 'anti-Semitism' which argues that any and all criticism of Israel or Jews is not permitted, I'll criticise anything if the issue holds merit, and I don't think my right to speak my true beliefs should be restricted.

From what I can see I don't think the people of Israel show characteristics of being decent caring people, they're hostile angry warmongers - possibly a product of their own persecution and 'never again' determination as well as the religious extremism
- and who by and large enjoy seeing the Palestinians suffer, and would go further in their attacks against them if they could.

Israelis would probably put the Palestinians in the gas chambers themselves if they could get away with it.
Am I wrong?

Nothing that I've stated in any of these discussions has been factually untrue, so if you think I'm the problem maybe you should take a closer look at yourselves.
I think however that it's just easier for them to blame others for being made to feel as victims than accept the related criticism as being valid.

I think Jews think it necessary to buy off elected representatives with lobby groups, and mess with the soverignty and unity of other nations, because they live forever in fear that the nationalists will rise up against them.

So what they want for themselves, a home of their own and a right to exist and be proud, they work to deny or undermine for everyone else.