WTF?

Fester says: "There is mounting evidence that renewable energy is not living up to expectations."

Well Fester where is the evidence and whose expectations are you talking about?

In this thread I have provided information from the Australian Manufacturing Forum, fDi Intelligence and the International Energy Agency.

You have provided no evidence at all.

If you read carefully, nuclear power is one of the investment strands (overseas anyway) so it has not "long been rejected by save the planet types" (whoever they are - I don't see them posting here).

Stop ranting and provide some evidence - and no references to youtube videos.

WTF?

Just another word soup rant from ttbn.

ttbn talks about "hideously expensive windmills and solar panels" - no evidence, no references just a hodgepodge of thought bubbles in a ttbn rant.

Since 2018 there have been at least 5 studies undertaken around the world involving the energy return on investment for wind energy.

It typically takes about six months for turbines to achieve energy-payback time, or EPBT, the time it takes for a system to generate more energy than it took to make it.

A US Environmental Protection Agency report said the typical lifespan was 20 years for wind turbines. Other sources estimate from 18-25 years.

The lower end estimates include everything from pre-mining of materials to decommissioning and recycling.

The article is about championing Australian technological excellence - the scientists involved developed this in the garage and it is now an international first.

What a sad, sad little world ttbn seems to inhabit.

Dear WTF? - Not Again,

Don't stress with this lot of anti-Australians mate.

The path of Australian innovators in the renewable energy space having to head overseas is unfortunately well trodden. Antipathy and downright hostility, particularly during the Coalition years, has seen many great inventions ending up outside of Australia enormously benefiting those who had the foresight to invest in it.

We are pretty good at digging dirt.

The purpose of an electricity generator is not so much to produce electricity, per se, but to provide a specified amount of electricity to a particular place or places, at a specific time.

That doesn't sound like renewables.

Hello SteeleRedux,

Thanks for the input.

One of the scientists involved said that at one time (10-15 years ago?) that solar cell production took place in Australia - this is no longer the case.

The hope is that this new technology can restart Australian production.

These pessimists that go through life playing "I am the main character" (as the younger ones say) have been left way behind.

The rent-seekers in the US have declared that a doubling of the prices they receive is now necessary to make offshore wind a viable investment. This is another counter to the ludicrous proposition that renewables are the cheapest way to generate electricity, something to which Albonese still clings.

Australia’ has downgraded its expectations, and now expects that 2023 investment may not reach three gigawatts.