Paul wrote: "No, I never said your claims were unbelievable,"

Well I never said you said that. So when you say that I said that you said that my claims were unbelievable you were wrong, because I never said that you said that I said any such thing. Is that clear?

" I said was they may have been fabricated by Israel for propaganda purposes, such misinformation is not unknown in war..."

That doesn't mean every claim is fabricated. International forensic teams is pretty powerful evidence. But I get it. For the Paul's of this world, everything that makes the people he supports look bad is fabricated and everything that makes the people he hates look bad is immediately, unthinkingly, true. Straight out of the AC playbook.

Speaking of the increasingly deranged AC....

"I'm willing to bet money that you have not destroyed Hamas at all."

Huh? How do you think I've been trying to destroy Hamas. I'm an observer not a participant. Dill.

"Israel has killed 6000 people, 40% were kids."
Oh so absolute proof that Hamas lied about the deaths at the hospital, but AC just goes on believing the death toll claims by Hamas. Dill.

I can't help but notice that none of the anti-Semites in the group are prepared to say exactly what those awful Joos are supposed to do about
the barbarity of Hamas. Just sit back and take it? I'm reminded of a cartoon recently with Biden holding a paper marked "Hamas demands" and the one demand being "Kill all the Jews" and Biden asking Netanyahu if he can met them half-way. Pretty much summarised the last 70 years in the Levant.

Most of us are aware of the history of the region.
We've all read the quotes of previous leaders and
what their aims were for the region. We've read
the impressions of people visiting the area and
the breaking of international laws and norms that have
been done for decades. And we now finally see what has
happened there as a result - where innocent people on
both sides are not only suffering but dieing.

It's a horrid situation. Trying to walk a middle-ground
is slippery and difficult. But it needs to be done.
As the war in the Middle East escalates and the death
toll rises Australian communities are facing tensions.

There's been abuse hurled in the streets, Some people
have faced a torrent of abuse - all this leaving Australian
Arabic and Jewish communities nervous and distressed.
Both the Islamic and Jewish communities have spoken of
terrifying surges in reports as ASIO warns of "spontaneous
violence" in Australia.

We don't need to add to it on this forum.

"Huh? How do you think I've been trying to destroy Hamas. I'm an observer not a participant. Dill."

You must be backed into a corner if you're picking on nuances...
It's ok, I understand the moral high ground has been slipping away with every apartment building Israel levels and the resulting dead women, kids and elderly plastered all over the tv for all to see.

"I can't help but notice that none of the anti-Semites in the group are prepared to say exactly what those awful Joos are supposed to do about the barbarity of Hamas. Just sit back and take it?"

Ah yeah... straight out of the 'You can never criticise Israel' playbook
The criticism has absolutely nothing at all to do with the dead women and kids were seeing on TV, no

Hmm, how about this:
Not only should they have taken it mhaze (since they caused it), but they should've immediately entered into serious negotiations for the 2 state solution, and given all the land taken back an apologised to every living man, woman and child for a conflict that has gone on for generations.

Now, they should probably hand themselves in for war crimes,
Crimes against humanity and such.

Looks like they're trying to pull that same 'You can never criticise Israel' bs with the head of the UN as well.

Israel demands UN chief resign after he says Hamas attacks ‘did not occur in vacuum’
http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-livid-after-un-chief-says-hamas-attacks-did-not-occur-in-vacuum/

>>Israeli envoy slams remarks from Guterres at Security Council as justification for terror, as FM cancels meeting with him; Gantz calls him a ‘terror apologist’<<

Wouldn't it be great if one had F-35s with JDAM missiles to level Palestinian buildings and the US government with it's veto power to prevent any criticism, for all time.

Well, don't count on US support forever, they're slowly going down the toilet, and trying hard to drag their allies down with them, I might add.

Many peaceful Arabs live and work in Israel, but Hamas is neither peaceful, nor pacifist. If they accepted the State of Israel's existence they could intermingle into Israel. But, no they want Israelis dead. Israel is a very successful State, among struggling Islamic States not dependent on Oil.

Maximum pressure needs to be applied on both Israel and
Hamas to end the bombardment and the blockage of Gaza,
free the hostages, and Israel must not return to its
indefinite occupation of the West Bank and stop its siege
of Gaza or return to the underlying conditions against
which Palestinians have long struggled.

Otherwise nothing will change.

Biden's administration by throwing its full weight behind an
Israeli government dominated by extremist ministers bent on
annexing the West Bank and expelling and killing as many
Palestinians as it can - only makes Hamas more powerful.
And sending money and military aid - worsens the situation.
Taking sides does not help.

Maximum pressure needs to be applied.
And the US is in a position to be able to
do that. However, it needs strong leadership.