Patricia Karvelas
Foxy,
Now there is an example of bias if there ever was one !

mhaze,

No, I never said your claims were unbelievable, what I said was they may have been fabricated by Israel for propaganda purposes, such misinformation is not unknown in war. Anyone who would kill innocent women and children is a fanatic, and that is not what the average Israeli is, its the fanatical Zionist that I was referring to. I said you "MIGHT" consider Palestinians subhuman, if you say you don't, then you don't. Given your previous posting I find you racists against others, including Muslims. I disagree with ALL FUNDAMENTAL RELIGIONS, be it Christian, Islam or Jewish. Fundamentalism is extremely dangerous!

With over 5,000 innocent Palestinians now dead because of Israeli militarism, do you believe that can be justified, despite so many innocent deaths?

"By 'Zionist' I assume you mean Israeli? The atrocities committed by the so-called Palestinians aren't justification for equal atrocities by Israel. BUT, they do justify Israel doing all possible to ensure that the Palestinians never do it again. You won't understand that."

Well that's a perfect example of backwards logic mhaze.
I'm willing to bet money that you have not destroyed Hamas at all.
Israel has killed 6000 people, 40% were kids.

You can't kill an entire people
Your stance will have just hardened their resolve against Israel

Your stance just succeeded in creating more Hamas
THAN THERE EVER WAS BEFORE.

If you support the killing of women and kids go ahead
You are just supporting a position that will nurture further hate, resentment and a reason for them to avenge.
Even if the numbers are completely unbalanced
All they are doing is creating more Palestinians that will want Israelis dead.
How do you think we got here?

Think about the 7 year old kid whos mother was killed under rubble
And you are the only person left in your family that lived.
Guaranteed he will become a member of Hamas.
- Now tell me how many kids just like that Israel has just created.

TENS OF THOUSANDS, ALL HELL BENT ON AVENGING THEIR OWN LOVED ONES.

I don't even support Israels right to defend itself anymore.
(If I ever did, but now I definitely don't)
The right to defend onself doesn't include leveling apartment buildings full of women and kids, and elderly.

As for the censorship bill...
And this current democracy...

Can't I have a simple monogamous relationship?
I'd rather have just one lot of people raping me
THAT TWO GROUPS TAKING TURNS.

Why would anyone in their right mind vote in support of a group that would screw them over?
- So they vote for the lesser evil, choose the other lot
And then they have their turn screwing them over.

What a great system.
- None of the above -
Democracy isn't working.

No more immigrants during a housing crisis
No more involvement of big business in social and political issues
CORPORATIONS ARE NOT CITIZENS
No more censorship while the mainstream media lies and omits the full story.

Hi AC,

"If you support the killing of women and kids go ahead
You are just supporting a position that will nurture further hate, resentment and a reason for them to avenge.
Even if the numbers are completely unbalanced
All they are doing is creating more Palestinians that will want Israelis dead."

HEAR, HEAR!

Perfect example, Americans started killing and destroying innocent villages in Vietnam, they murdered tens of thousands in a belief they were preventing Vietcong recruitment, and villages supporting the Vietcong. What happened was thousands of non-combatant young Vietnamese girls and boys rushed to join the Vietcong. If you want to radicalise someone, its very easy, just wipe out their family.

Dear Armchair Critic,

It is difficult sifting ones way through the framing media companies put over this conflict. I am finding some of the Israeli papers have a more realistic take.

For instance there are lots of Western media quoting 1300 civilians gunned down by Hamas on October 7.

While Haaretz gives a more nuanced view.

"Over 1,300 Israelis, civilians and soldiers were killed in their homes, communities and in confronting Hamas terrorists. Here are the officially confirmed names of Israel's dead in the atrocities of October 7 and the subsequent Israel-Hamas war"

Since posting on October 19 the figures have been slow to update but at the time of the more than 700 persons identified over 300 were officers and enlisted men of the IDF.

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-19/ty-article-magazine/israels-dead-the-names-of-those-killed-in-hamas-massacres-and-the-israel-hamas-war/0000018b-325c-d450-a3af-7b5cf0210000

The toll is sickening on both sides and is unfortunately likely to get much worse.