Israel PM Benjamin Netanyahu should consider this is not the time for war because world food supply can not be sustained, especially during a nuclear world war.

Only now is formal science beginning to explore underwater ocean ecosystems using a significant (2023) scientific plan.
http://blogs.nasa.gov/earthexpeditions/2023/06/06/a-day-in-the-life-of-the-ocean-currents/

Surely, discussion about sustaining world food supply linked to war and climate must not be archived and shut down, especially in times of free speech.

Urgent solutions rely on proper diagnosis.
Netanyahu should consider whole world ocean fish supply and underwater ecosystems are already devastated. Forget surviving on fish protein for essential nutrition during war.
Disease will rage worldwide.

Perhaps JF Aus you could try directing your rant to Hamas, the people who started the rockets.

Don't get this one at all. Israel is fighting for its existence. Not a lot to do with climate, food, or anything else right now.

On this climate caper continued thread here and now, can we take up discussion by going back in time to when Hasbeen commented about integrity, involving critically serious situations?
Am I correct? Or is Hasbeen dangerously incorrect?

Various issues are involved. Including new phenomena involving world food supply and weather ecosystems.
Time wasted during years of climate debate in parliament, all wasting time and billions, while study into Agricultural Competitiveness - Abbott government White Paper - Supporting Information, has been ignored.

Now there are moves to stop the export of live animals to malnourished hungry Middle East people who cannot afford refrigeration. For example, hunger breeds unrest including for the people of Gaza.
Inland water and reducing and recycling the fresh water nutrient load involves engineering of massive benefit to farmers and graziers.

Productive export-generating economic stimulus is needed for presently troubled Australian graziers and farmers, whereas hindrance is a threat to world protein food supply sustainability. Right now.
Ignorance of the situation is absurd.

Sewage nutrient pollution is the fundamental problem, not CO2.

How did the world ocean get into the advanced state of devastation it is now in?
More than 50% of world ocean surface water has already changed color, from blue to green or more green than during known History.
How exactly does CO2 cause ocean color change? Science please.

After posting this brief I will add another post and evidence to indicate my view of how Australian east coast sewage nutrient pollution reaches the Great Barrier Reef proper and damages coral.

Meanwhile, billions are still being spent on CO2 climate GBR capers, NOT on the fundamental cause of damage to coral, or on economically stimulating solutions.
Plumbing is already a huge industry, so too is world agriculture, farming, grazing.

War can really disrupt food production, especially if rivers and the whole ocean are almost empty of food. Seriously.
Att: HAMAS & Netanyahu and Biden and Putin etc.

If I am incorrect in any relevant way, please provide evidence of substance. Comment is appreciated.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=10223&page=10

Hasbeen says:
Obviously JF Aus you have no idea of how the east coast currents & tidal flows protect the main bulk of the great barrier reef from anything coming from the Oz continent.

Hasbeen,
Australian east coast sediment is known to be dispersed from waters of Victoria into waters north of Fraser Island where the heavy sand falls out from the longshore sediment dispersal system and drops over the Continental shelf.
Fresher surface water with bonded nutrients in the sediment dispersal current continues northwards.

Point source sewage nutrient is dumped daily into the Australian east coast sediment dispersal system without being measured and managed.

When dumped, fresh wastewater with bonded dissolved nutrient rises to the ocean surface and is swept northwards by prevailing surface winds, including into waters between the Swain Reefs and Fraser Island where an ocean eddy turning clockwise is postulated to exist.
The eddy-like current is considered driven primarily by the East Australian Current flowing southwards outside the GBR, that current touching the eastern side of the eddy, glancing, pushing and turning the eddy clockwise.
Quantities of surface water are flung outwards onto the Swain Reefs.

Prevailing southeast winds push the fresher alongshore surface water
northwards into the Great Barrier Reef lagoon or beyond.
Queensland coast point-sources add to the nutrient load.
Dissolved P&N nutrient over-load proliferates over abundance of algae, reducing sunlight and essential photosynthesis, damaging seagrass.

The once natural flow of Australian east coast ALONGSHORE current flow once transported natural nutrients, feeding and forming GBR coral.

Virtually all Aus east coast estuary and bay and lagoon seagrass nurseries for small fish supposed to supply food for migratory tuna and other ocean fish to sustain health of island people, are gone, devastated.

The serious issue however is about people, not C02, not plastic, not extinction, not nuclear.
Adequate nutrition for seafood-dependent humans is the primary issue.

Climate caper lobbyists falsely claiming ocean damage is caused by greenhouse gas are wasting vital time. Real solutions are needed.
Absolutely urgently.

If any matter above is incorrect please provide evidence.

John C Fairfax

Hi JF Aus,
"Now there are moves to stop the export of live animals to malnourished hungry Middle East people who cannot afford refrigeration."

I actually agree with the cessation of live exports.
After what I've seen of their treatment of sheep and other animals I can't in good conscience support their export.
- Learn how to treat the animals with respect and decency before their lives are ended, and the live exports can resume.
Otherwise if you wish to mistreat them, find someone else to buy them from.

"How did the world ocean get into the advanced state of devastation it is now in?"
- A combination of over-fishing and the pumping of human effluent into the ocean grasses just offshore where they breed.