No referendum has ever succeeded without bipartisan support so when Albo rejected Dutton's reasonable request for compromise it was clear that this referendum would be a spectacular defeat. That Labor pressed ahead with this $400,000,000 boondoggle shows contempt for Australians struggling with the Labor's cost of living crisis.

The question is now whether Albozo should stay in office. Already his approval rating has plummeted, and while the polls still favour labor the trend is that the gap is closing and there is speculation that Albo will get knifed just as Rudd did.

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Enjoying the company of Voice supporters who were burning Israeli flags and calling for the gassing of Jews won't help him either.

It's not just Albanese, it's Labor as a whole. The present but long into the future ranging mess is proof of the incompetence of Socialist idealism pushed by Govt coffer emptying Academia !

The cost of this divisive, race based and totally unnecessary referendum will probably be one of the things on the minds of voters 'doing it tough' when they are forced into the polling booths to decide on something that means sweet FA to most of them.

Albanese is an idiot with a tin ear; it is to be hoped that he will be rotting on the back bench after this weekend. Lord knows what he would be replaced with. Shorten? There's not much available.

Indyvidual

I think that it is Albanese, not Labor in its entirety. The man is a Trotskyite dictator; a man with a chip on his shoulder, unfit for any position above union shop steward.

A couple of things need clarification.

Firstly - It's unfortunate that media coverage has focused
on a tiny fringe of vile attendees at the pro-Palestinian
rallies in Sydney. The slurs came from only a handful of
agitators. Mostly young teens who were dealt with. Arab
and Muslim elders found their behaviour disgusting and
have condemned it. The organizers of the rallies - the
Palestine Action Group have also voiced their disapproval.

As for the Voice to Parliament? The initial proposal
back in 2017 - the concept was rejected at the time by the
Liberal-National Turnbull government. In October 2019 -
the Liberal National Morrison government wanted the proposal
legislated not enshrined in the Constitution.

A co-design process organised by Ken Wyatt was completed in
July 2021. The Morrison government did not pass any
legilsation between July 2021 and the election in 2022
when the Labor government got elected and Albanese kept
his election promise to go ahead with the Voice.

The Voice has a mixed history as far as the Coalition is
concerned. Push and pull. And blaming the cost on Labor is
somewhat disingenuous - when the Coalition is saying that
if the Voice fails in the referendum - they intend to have
another referendum. Double the cost?

Odd beaviour to say the least.

I can say the elitest Voice will fail miserably because YES keeps aboriginals a victim of the past forever. Besides, it will allow radical communists or Muslims to marry into aboriginal families and gain control of the national agenda by their uncontrolled lobbying in the name of sacred sites.

The $360,000,000 spent on the referendum could have built houses for aboriginals in need and elevated them from tin sheds.

Sheer lunatic insanity ... (The Voice)... ' will allow radical communists or Muslims to marry into aboriginal families and gain control of the national agenda by their uncontrolled lobbying in the name of sacred sites.'

You really have no concept of just how stupid you really are do you Josephus.

Perhaps Josephus was thinking of the tendency of Muslims and aborigines to pal up in jail; many of the aborigines converting to Islam.

"The question is now whether Albozo should stay in office

Pansyboy PM can go, but Dud Dutton's is a throwback as well.

Dutton only climbed out from under his rock because he had to.
He was thrown a sitter and still fumbled it badly.

- None of the above -

You really have no concept of just how stupid you really are do you Josephus.
Aries54,
It is clear that you are the one & not Josephus !

Dear Foxy,

It was an illegal protest full of hatred. The police did not have the bottle to stop them, and instead arrested a guy with an Israeli flag for disturbing the peace. The truth was that it was an antisemitic rabble and posed a significant danger to the community with its calls of hatred. The protest should have been declared illegal and the protestors disbanded. You might listen to the special ABC version but the rest of the world saw the hate filled truth, replete with "yes" banners and Aboriginal flags. The creed of "them and us" is horrible and divisive.

Imagine if..

They just built a website like OLO
Primarily for indigenous elders of all 250 tribes
And they could 'voice' their needs and concerns there.

Everyone, including government, could see what the main problems were in all the towns and work towards actually improving things for them, not via constitution, but the actually problems, on the ground spoken from the mouths of the people best suited to bring these issues to light.

And all the elders of each tribe, could talk to the elders of the other tribes, and they each could figure out the best way forward to improve things in all of their communities.

Open source forum software, $15 domain name, $100 yearly hosting
I'm thinking we could achieve more than 'The Voice' would just from that $115, and we could have even just gone ahead and given them the remaining $399,999,885 to implement some of those changes that might actually help them.

Well that's what I would've done.

That's a brilliant idea AC.

Foxy,

To claim "It's unfortunate that media coverage has focused on a tiny fringe of vile attendees at the pro-Palestinian rallies in Sydney. The slurs came from only a handful of agitators" is wildly naive. No one at the rally did anything to stop them and a few "elders" later denouncing them means little to nothing.

The antisemitic hatred at Sydney Uni is plain to see and this needs to be dealt with

"A leading pollster has declared there is “no chance” the referendum on a Voice to Parliament will succeed and said in some states the polling is so bad that campaigners should give up now.

The latest data from Roy Morgan puts support for No at 50 per cent and the Yes vote at 45 per cent.

And fresh shock polling released today shows support among Indigenous Australians is at just 59 per cent – well below the 80 per cent claimed.

For the Voice referendum to get up, a double-majority needs to occur – a majority of all Australians voting Yes and a majority of states backing it.

“That’s just not going to happen,” Kos Samaras, director of polling firm Red Bridge, told news.com.au. “It’s all over.”

“New South Wales and Victoria could go either way, but it’s really not that close. They’ve got the right demographic mix to sustain enough support.

“Even Tasmania, which has been declared as in support of the Voice in some polls – that was a very small sample.

“On the flip side, Queensland and Western Australia are overwhelmingly No and there’s no coming back.”

In WA and Queensland, the numbers are so bad for the Yes campaign that Mr Samaras said “they should just give up, I’m afraid”.

Polls are all very well. I'm looking forward to next Sunday and beyond for actual results. I'm also looking forward to the return of sanity, and Albanese announcing that he is standing down. The man has done untold damage to this country, and he must be punished.

I am looking forward to Australia voting against Aus apartheid and giving Albozo a kick in the nuts.

Two high ranking LIBERAL PARTY hacks Josh Frydenberg and Mathias Cormann have been named at the Senate Inquiry into the billion dollar tax rorting schemes promoted and sold to big business by PWC, the same mob who were paid millions of taxpayer dollars, to supposedly show the Noalition government how to deal with multinational tax rorting. Hopefully it will be revealed what part Noalition government members played in all this ripping off of taxpayers between 2013 and 2020.

p/s, $400 million on the referendum is small beer when compared to Noalition government rorts and wast, that covers billions.

Inquiry into the billion dollar tax rorting schemes promoted and sold to big business by PWC
Paul1405,
Bureaudroids not doing what they get paid for, then blaming the politicians should be familiar to you !

Indy,

As usual you don't comprehend, PWC employees are not what you refer to as "Bureaudroids" (public servants), they are private consultants milking millions from the taxpayer, me not you. As you were sacked from the PS for incompetence, you are now filled with hatred for the decent men and women of Australia's public service. Maybe if the Noalition had not run the PS into the ground, and allowed their rip-off mates a free hand, it would not have come to this, billions ripped off!

Village idiot,

Back at it with your lies and half-truths. Neither Corman nor Frydenburg have had anything to do with the scandal at PWC nor have they been implicated. Considering that this is happening under the Labor gangreen regime, perhaps you should look closer to home.

But you are right, $400,000,000 of wasted taxpayer money is a drop in the ocean of Labor's $1000,000,000,000 debt, but it does look bad during Labor's cost of living crisis and the voice rout to come.

Village idiot

I forgot to mention another LIBERAL PARTY hack also features predominantly at the 'PWC Tax Rort' Inquiry, the cigar chopping "Smoken" Joe Hockey. Add in the billions rorted by the LIBERAL PARTY in government, through 'Sportsrorts', 'Carparkrorts' 'Swimmingpoolsrorts' and 'Landrorts' then $400K well spent on letting the people decide is nothing, nil, zilch infinitesimal, microscopic, teeny etc etc. And of course ScumO' and Friedbrain dished out billions to their mates down at the big end of town, and now the taxpayer is saddled with A TRILLION DOLLARS OF LIBERAL PARTY DEBT! Village idiot you cannot accept the truth!

billions ripped off!
Paul1405,
Yes, they got away with it for too long because as per usual you lot didn't do what you are employed for by the Taxpayers !

SM

The Village Idiot is now addressing himself! There is only one idiot per village, and you gave the position to him long ago. He now proves how worthy of the title he is.

ttbn,

Yup, the village idiot is talking to himself. The amount wasted is $400m, not $400k as the village idiot says.

What an idiot.

Village idiot,

Its rather pathetic when the halfwit Old Fart has to try and come to your defence. The bloke is well known for parroting far right propaganda and presenting it as his own handy work! Look, if the Voice goes down, and that's likely, then the pair of you can lead the torch light procession into the Stadium.

p/s Don't make it too late Nursey likes the forum Old Farts in bed by 8 o'clock, that includes YOU!

Village idiot,

You are the half-wit old fart that's why you are the village idiot and everyone recognises you as the village idiot.

I have never been prouder to be an Australian than today.

The defeat of the Voice to Parliament is a major victory for the Australian way of life, and a victory for unity over division. The defeat is total, comprehensive, inarguable, and permanent.

In voting against the Voice, Australians voted for the continuation of our way of life, one that is based on fairness, equal treatment, democracy, and freedom. It is this way of life that has created a society of unparalleled opportunity, prosperity, and tolerance.

It shows that Australians believe Australia is a great country with strong foundations, and they want to keep it that way.

I know many of you, like me, are relieved this debate is over. But we must remember that this is really just the end of the beginning, and winning the peace is just as important as winning the battle. I would encourage you to enjoy tonight and the next few days, but stay engaged for what comes next.

The simple reason why Australians voted ‘No’ is that they did not want our nation to be permanently divided by race. Australians fully understand that providing different rights to different people based on race is inconsistent with our values.

I hope that whichever Fed Govt we'll have next term, they will provide a Voice to Govt with the one that has been in place for a number of years but never did its job or disband the NIAA.
Perform & stay or be gone. Too much money going to too few for nothing at the expense of the real needy !
The result of this referendum is a golden opportunity to weed out the horde of useless money wasters & replace them with society builders ! The NO will soon be seen by all as a massive blessing ! The indigenous just got a new chance which the Voice would have denied them.

Yes, hopefully it might be the the start of a new approach to closing the gap. Fifty years based on the belief that indigenous Australians had the answers has been a failure. The Voice would have been more of the same. The Yes camp in defeat reminded me of Donald Trump.

Now for the battle to keep the lights on.

A wonderful victory over Awfulnese and the Communists. Australians can breath again, and work towards the removal of the most awful Prime Minister in history.

As for the wacko media's announcement that Awfulnese "accepts" the result, what the hell else do they think he could do. Declare martial law? He should now get the f... out of politics, or be kicked out, if there is any decency at all left in the ALP.

Most Australians have ignored the elites, the Leftist media, Big Business, Big Sport and the loony Left in general.

The 'silent majority' lives.

Northern Territory, with the highest aboriginal population, 62% NO.

Well said,

The fault lies entirely at Albozo's feet.

The problem is whether he still pursues the voice, treaty and reparations through parliament. If he has any intention of a second term he should listen to the voters for the first time.

No need for another Voice, we already have the NIAA, we just need to get them to do what they get paid for !

Anyone else hear about this?
- I can't seem to figure out whether or not it only applies to indigenous workers

Public servants offered five days of paid leave if they are psychologically distressed by Australia voting against the Voice
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12649475/The-Voice-days-work-referendum-result.html

"Public servants in Queensland have been offered five days of paid leave if they are suffering from psychological distress following the failed Voice referendum.
Leaders in the public sector this week received an email telling them they could grant workers special leave as well as sick leave.
The message, from Public Sector Commissioner David Mackie, called on department bosses to consider the emotional impact the referendum's result would have on indigenous workers.
He added that the initiative was to ensure staff members remained mentally well."

Also this:

Big banks offer 'cultural leave' to Aboriginal workers after Voice defeat
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12638113/Big-banks-NAB-Westpac-ANZ-cultural-leave-Indigenous-Voice-referendum.html

"Indigenous workers at some of Australia's top banks are being offered paid leave to recover from the Voice referendum result.
National Australia Bank (NAB) is offering cultural leave and counseling to Indigenous employees after Australia voted No in the referendum on Saturday.
Westpac and ANZ also have 'special leave' that could allow Indigenous staff to take time off to recover from the fallout, while accounting giant KPMG is offering to hold 'yarning circles' for Indigenous employees to discuss the result and 'heal in a culturally safe space'."

Hi AC,

We are a "sensitive" lot, are we not? I voted 'YES', but I don't feel there is anything to recover from. Then again "melons" working down at the bank might need to "recover" considering all those nasty things that ails them, like bad customer service!

AC

I have mentioned this twice elsewhere. It appears to be true, along with our wimpy cricketers, who were offered counselling, just in case, even before the lights went out on the Voice.

What a bloody weird country we live in!

Good to see that Paul is managing to keep a stiff upper lip.

The rejection of the Voice was also a rejection of the Yes supporters themselves: those people who " pride themselves on having the judgement and wisdom to diagnose social ills and prescribe solutions" (Nick Cater).

The choking, swearing, and abuse of No voters and 'racist' Australia was appalling.

The referendum result was a rude shock to the holier-than-thou Left. The more polite ones were "perplexed and devastated", as one 'celebrity' tweeted.

The aboriginal industry must now be worried that their hugely expensive quangos and fabulously paid jobs will now come under more scrutiny.

I have always believed the "Voice" was supported by Palestinian Islamists, and we have evidence of this at Pine Gap this morning where one hundred Islamic extremists met outside the facility to protest the war against Palestine. A facility they believe is on stolen land. Australia is being drawn into the conflict by people who cannot live peacefully with their neighbors.

"people who cannot live peacefully with their neighbors."

That's very euphemistic Josephus. It is a hateful antisemitic movement that has always been about refusing a two state solution and only offers Israelis a choice of leave or be killed. I amazed that a racist anti-immigration terrorist organisation is not being condemned by the Greens and factions of Labor.

On a brighter note, now that the week of mourning is nearly over, do you think that Marcia might announce the end of welcome to country/acknowledgement of country as punishment for the wicked no vote?

Hi ttbn,
"The referendum result was a rude shock to the holier-than-thou Left. The more polite ones were "perplexed and devastated", as one 'celebrity' tweeted.
The aboriginal industry must now be worried that their hugely expensive quangos and fabulously paid jobs will now come under more scrutiny."

Hmmm.. I just remembered this from 2016

Woman screams as Donald Trump is sworn in as President
http://youtu.be/wDYNVH0U3cs

- thought to myself 'Yeah really, why should I be surprised'... Lol

Also not surprising you found and shared this story much earlier, I must've missed your comments.
Apparently it's was all over the radio yesterday, good job ttbn.

You certainly vacuum up information, Josephus. What Palestinians hope to achieve by demonstrating outside Pine Gap only Allah knows. They will gain nothing, in my opinion; just as all those outside the Opera House will gain nothing except dislike and contempt. Australia or any other Western country they have shifted to is not the place to carry on like mad dogs over wars in foreign countries over which Australia has no control; and very little interest in or sympathy for Israel from the Albanese extreme Left government.

AC

Yes. No surprises. We know what is going to happen. I don't think that we will ever be surprised by people who seem hell bent on dragging society down to their level.

Marcia might announce the end of welcome to country
Fester,
Good point. Will they now deny entering Country for those evil NO voters who go into communities to care for the sick & provide essential services etc ?
I can just see Marcia not accepting another salary from these nasty, racist NO voters !

"Because a constitution is the fundamental law providing the framework for institutions, it must be an enduring thing; not lightly to be changed in response to the passing policy of a present parliamentary majority." (Former High Court Judge, Sir Ninian Stephen)

Indyvidual,

On the positive side, the referendum did bring the plight of remote indigenous people to public attention, although the price was a bit steep. What I don't understand is the pull down the shutters approach of government to these problems when they were claiming they had the solutions and didn't need any special powers to implement them.

Fester,
As Hasbeen stated in another thread, the referendum had nothing to do with the indigenous !
Many of us know the real agenda but to reveal that now would cause more division !
Gradual revelation either through their own impatience or awakening by the general public will expose it !

Indyvidual,

Listening to Bob Katter today I got the impression that the communist system remote communities live under, along with native title, is very restrictive on their lives. Indigenous control could be contributing to their problems rather than delivering them from their destitution. It is a big shame to see all the yes people so passionate about the plight of indigenous Australians just blow off to the next pet issue of their cult leader after pissing up 450 mill on a wall. The antisemitism doesn't sit well with me either.

The problem with these ignorant do-gooders is just that, ignorance ! If some idealist yuppies decide to camp in the bush for some time to "connect with nature" they're portrayed as some alternative life-stylers.
Yet the Aborigines who choose to live in the outback generate headlines of discrimination & words like plight are very fashionable !
General Australian non-indigenous society has a far greater percentage of "plight". No do-gooders give a hoot about unfashionable battlers who don't get anywhere near the support doing it tough.
I think apart from a much more sinister agenda, the big problem is people or rather hypocrites of every ethnicity making big money from the perpetual "plight' bleating.
A Gap Year National Service would very quickly do away with this deliberately created & perpetuated ignorance & our society would be much, much better than it is presently !

It's over. People will continue to deny themselves opportunities by living in remote camps with no jobs, no facilities. Or they will get off their arses and live like the rest of us. I don't bloody care.

Some of the shite-for-brains losers have said that the NO vote has released a "tsunami of racism".

A strange idea seeing that they kept telling us that the Voice was 'nothing to do with race'.

The resident ranter is off his chops again, with a barrage of inane posts. The fella claims no one is interested in what's posted here, but he holds the record for the proliferation of nonsense. They must have ran out of his 'Doz Easy' meds down at the old folks home for the mentally challenged!

Village idiot,

On this site, you are the master of lies and misinformation. Everyone else including Baldrick are complete amateurs by comparison.

shadowminister,

Indeed. The problem with a narcissist who is also stupid is that he doesn't know that he is a narcissist and stupid, and you can get more sense addressing a brick wall. There are definitely three of them on this site, one of whom is also a madwoman. The female of the species is always needy, plays the victim, manipulates, bullys, and usually is a 'mean girl'. The group as a whole, is self-absorbed; never at fault; exploitative; vain; sensitive to criticism, and very reactive. They take everything personally; are never at fault; excessively self-important, with with fantasies of power; hopelessly inadequate and impossible to cure.