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Would The Voice Stop The Vice?

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Armchair Critic,
Thanks, going to see these particular communities to gauge how they'll vote is akin to walking into a Hippy community to ask if they'd vote for or against smoking Dope !
A callously calculated foregone conclusion ! In other words a dirty underhand tactic to trick the ignorant southern Demographic !
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 5 October 2023 7:18:39 PM
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Indy,

In Doomadgee, the life expectancy is 49, some of the worst in the world. preventable rheumatic heart disease is rife in the town....But YOU don't want to know about that, YOU are happy to maintain the status quo, more of the same, doesn't effect your aged welfare. I assume YOU are already about twice 49, so lucky YOU, why care about some black fellas in a remote town like Doomadgee, it doesn't effect YOU.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 5 October 2023 7:55:50 PM
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Hey Indy,
While the 10 - 15 minute segment did show that people in these communities have already began to vote in the referendum, it was more about the issues these people face in their communities, drinking, fighting, lack of jobs and services and the high cost of groceries.

The impression I got was that rather than a 'Voice' in Canberra representing them, they felt someone was needed within their communities that actually understood the issues; and they were skeptical (but hopeful I assume) about whether or not 'The Voice' would bring lasting changes things for the better, based on the history of past government assistance programs.

They didn't really go into the issue of which way the members of their communities were planning to vote.
I can only assume it would be a 'Yes' vote, but I'm not certain.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 5 October 2023 7:56:49 PM
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In Doomadgee, the life expectancy is 49,
Paul1405,
Why ? I know people who have worked there who told me of the conditions in that community & the common consensus is until the locals need to get interested in their own wellbeing & until they do so, nothing will change. People from every thinkable organisation have come & gone & largely given up from what I gather. So, you think your Voice will change change that ? How ? With even more funding when a fraction of what has already been funded would have turned any other community into a mini Dubai ?
If you saw non-indigenous behaving similarly you'd be the first to point the finger at them !
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 6 October 2023 6:27:33 AM
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"the locals need to get interested in their own wellbeing".

Why would they, when their own elites, Albanese, and the latter-day communists all say that they are incapable of doing so.

That's what the Voice is all about: telling people that they are useless; that they need Big Brother to tell them what to do: to run their lives for them.

The Voice is the biggest 'put down' to aborigines ever.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 6 October 2023 7:11:03 AM
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My view is that, if those who wish to exist without effort then they should be able to do so. However, others who do not share their philosophy must also be given the opportunity to exercise their philosophy.
No-one should feel they can demand another to compensate them for their own lack of initiative & effort ! If those who want to keep bleating others should provide then let them do so. They have no right to demand others share their philosophy ! If I need help I ask & whenever I can I compensate the helper in kind or by paying them for their effort !
Being in need of help is either down to fate or bad luck or whatever no fault of theirs & they must be supported by the rest of us. Generally, the consequences of choosing a lifestyle based on no personal effort are no-one else's responsibility no matter where or when or which ethnic group they were born into ! All everyone has to do is to pull their own weight with what's available or what they make available to them. There are natural & human made Laws to go by !
Blame is not one of them & blame must only be used where blaming is warranted ! Lack of initiative is not a base for blame ! Life lived by those before us has nothing to do with us but our actions impact on the next Generation & that is our responsibility & those too inconsiderate must be held to account in our time & that's where too many fail ! A kind of National Service will make great inroads into adapting a much better mentality towards others & result in a better society !
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 6 October 2023 7:21:56 AM
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