Kamahl is voting no, objecting to the Voice as being apartheid and racial privilege. Kamahl, as a Malaysian born immigrant, has contributed much to this nation. Like the 'Go back to where you came from!" anti-immigration rants, the anti-colonial stance of the "Yes" campaigners sounds equally divisive and pointless to me at least.

Whatever the circumstances, we are all in this nation together, so better to be equal with a common purpose and support than divided with conflicting interests.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12512007/Kamahl-voting-No-Voice-referendum.html

Good on him. My favourite of his songs is 'The Sounds of Goodbye'.

Let's hope what we are now hearing from the polls is the sounds of goodbye to the Voice and Albanese shortly after.

I put this by mistake in Josephus's post. Something else for the resident arsehole to sneer at 'old blokes' about.

And he copped a lot racist slurs at his expense. Forty plus years ago on Hey Hey it's Saturday, and earlier this year from that bastion of fairness and champion against racism, the ABC. He has yet to receive an apology from the ABC to my knowledge.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9415929/Kamahls-classy-comeback-Hey-Hey-Saturday-presenter-John-Blackman-racism-complaints.html

Agree ttbn. A very decent man.

At the Press Club, Jacinta Price was asked if "indigenous people remained traumatised by colonisation". She said "No".

She then went on to point out the positive things about colonisation.

Next day the MSM in the form of The Guardian blared that 'indigenous people had said that Price was wrong and disloyal'.

No, they did not. A single person said that: one Linda Burney, who claimed that "people" had said that to her.

No names. No evidence. Just the incompetent Burney. The one who just reads from an irrelevant script each time she is asked a question in Parliament.

The lies and stupidity of the Yes camp continue.

Price, on the other hand said, "we keep telling Aboriginal people that they are victims, well, we are effectively removing their agency… That is the worst possible thing you can do to any human being – to tell them they are a victim without agency and that’s what I refuse to do.”

Linda Burney (off her own bat this time: no other 'indigenous people' available found those comments "offensive".

To Burney it is not offensive to treat them like victims.

The woman is cracked; and no matter what the result of the referendum, she is not a fit person to hold the portfolio she does.

As Shadowminister, on the other hand, Jacinta Price was brilliant. She completely took down Left-wing identity politics at the Press Club, saying it was all built on lies, and what was really needed was an inquiry into the thousands of indigenous agencies that already exist and how they are spending billions of dollars of taxpayers’ money.

She also suggested that, instead of blaming colonisation for the plight of indigenous people, negative aspects of Aboriginal culture should be looked at. Family violence, interpersonal violence. Young girls are married off to older husbands and arranged marriages.

Yes, Senator Price was wonderful at the National Press Club with her parents and husband looking very proud of her. I liked her remark that colonisation should be doubly traumatising for her with her convict heritage on her dad's side.

I hope that Kamahl gets his apology from the ABC soon. He is an old man.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11770029/Kamahl-demands-public-apology-ABC-presenter-Phillip-Adams-calling-honorary-white.html

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Dear Fester,

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You wrote :

« Whatever the circumstances, we are all in this nation together, so better to be equal with a common purpose and support than divided with conflicting interests. »
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Unfortunately, Fester, we are not all equal. That’s the problem – or, should I say the "reality". Some of us are handicapped, some are naturally skilful, some are brilliant, some mentally retarded, some talented, some totally inept, uneducated, rich or poor …

We are not even born "equal". Nor do we necessarily have the same opportunities. We do not enjoy the same lifestyles. We do not suffer the same death. People of different cultures are different. People from different backgrounds, with different aspirations, skills, handicaps, states of health, education or lack thereof, cannot, and, I suspect, should not, be made equal.

Equality seems to me a somewhat vain objective. It is, for all intents and purposes, unfeasible and, as I mentioned, possibly not even desirable. Justice seems a more realistic and more noble objective, especially the “justice as fairness” that John Rawls advocates.

So, the question we should ask ourselves is :

« What is fair for us all, both traditional and modern Australians, given that many of our indigenous peoples are caught between the two cultures, their traditional Aboriginal culture and modern Western culture, and have great difficulty reconciling the two ? »

Many of us have great difficulty realising that just over 200 years ago, these people were living in this country in a primitive, naked state, hunting wild animals with spears and boomerangs (they hadn’t invented bows and arrows) and had been languishing in their hunter-gatherer tribes for over 65 000 years until relatively recently.

Perhaps I should add that, for me, “fair” means that to share something equally between you and me, I cut it in half, and you choose first – or vice versa.

And it is with this "fairness" principle in mind that we need to decide how to vote on the 14th of October, in the best interests of all – or vice versa !

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