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Climate capers

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mhaze,

Is flare and other activity on the sun also measured with data included in sea surface temperature science?

http://www.space.com/sun-blasts-highest-energy-radiation-ever-recorded-raising-questions-solar-physics?fbclid=IwAR2xDzxcRavs5JCutFG5Kue02D-UWoNLTT9TiET55WcDF3t9IqqqCVVBlDw
Posted by JF Aus, Monday, 11 September 2023 4:48:30 PM
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WTF?

mhaze says:

"Its important because of what it shows about the data from pristine rural sites as compared to data from corrupted urban sites"

on one hand while stating on the other:

"So one place warming more or less than another place is really a mere curiosity although of vital importance for the folk in those places."

Once again mhaze your resource concludes that " "Over the global domain, the NOAAGlobalTemp version 5 trends are statistically consistent with the previous version. These trends further support earlier research findings over decadal and longer timescales, showing the robustness of the warming trends and no slowdown or warming hiatus on decadal scales."

This is not going to change regardless of what you say.
Posted by WTF? - Not Again, Monday, 11 September 2023 5:53:08 PM
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"Is flare and other activity on the sun also measured with data included in sea surface temperature science?"

Not directly. The surface temperature records simply record the temperature in (normally) Celsius at the surface. On land the measurement is taken, about 2 metres above the surface, whereas on the sea it is taken within 1 metre of the sea surface.

The action of the solar flares has nothing to do with temperature. Nonetheless, it is clear that the solar flares do act upon the upper atmosphere and these effects devolve down to having some effect on the surface. The IPCC thinks these effects are very minor and are basically ignored. OTOH, some scientists such as Svensmark think the solar flares are the main drivers on cloud formation and that clouds are a major driver of surface temperature. Svensmark theory is that most climate change cycles, including the ice ages, can be explained by changes in solar flare activity as well as the earth's interaction with intra-galactic gamma rays.
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 7:12:19 AM
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WTF,

Well that confirms it. Not only do you not understand these issues but you don't have the intellectual curiosity to try to understand them.

If you ever decide to go beyond just regurgitating what your climate gurus tell you, a starting point would be to try to understand how anomalies are used in climate science....and other areas of statistics for that matter.
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 7:16:23 AM
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mhaze states:

"just regurgitating what your climate gurus tell you,"

No I am restating what your climate gurus are saying.

You directed us to your gurus' website that provides a much more comprehensive and authoritative summation than I could provide so I will continue to quote them.

There is no point in me trying to rephase this comprehensive research to simplify it for others.

Very noteworthy in the summation from your gurus "....the robustness of the warming trends and no slowdown or warming hiatus on decadal scales."
Posted by WTF? - Not Again, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 7:37:29 AM
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Let's focus on where we can do something-Pollution because we can't do anything about Climate !
Recreation is also a two-edged sword. Killing fauna & destroying flora for fun, entertainment or recreation is no longer an acceptable way to perpetuate frivolous activities !
We humans need to curb just about everything we identify with modern existence.
Frivolous Plastics off the list is nr 1.
Frivolous burning of fuel is nr 2.
Frivolous tearing up country is nr 3.
And, so on ! Frivolity is killing the environment as is warfare & training for warfare which is merely frivolity for a handful of people having excess fun & games at the expense of everyone & everything else ! Curb the intellectual elite by having it depend on & live off merit !
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 14 September 2023 7:06:57 AM
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