It has long been a core objective of the Labour Movement that there should be a reality of; "A fair day's wage for a fair day's work." This has not been the case in Australia in recent times, with workers being exploited through the gig economy, casual employment and labour hire systems. For years the Coalition government allowed these unfair exploitative work practices to exists, and did nothing, now the Albanese Labor government is moving with new legislation to remove these blatantly exploitative practices. These new laws introduced to Parliament on Monday by Workplace relations minister, Tony Burke will go someway towards removing the loopholes which has allowed some employers to rip pay and conditions off workers in the past. Showing their true colours the Coalition are opposing these reasonable changes, but with Greens and cross bench support they are expected to pass in the Senate.

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/sep/04/australian-government-to-close-labour-hire-loophole-to-help-67000-workers-being-ripped-off-by-employers

When I working in New York City, my employer pressured me to sign a contract as an independent contractor. I was not in fact an independent contractor but an employee keeping regular hours. The advantage to the employer of getting me to sign such a contract was that he would not have pay to the government funds to provide a safety net for me such as unemployment insurance. If the proposed legislation passes, I predict there will be an increase in the number of independent contractors.

It is a bit hard to sustain your argument Paul, when we have some of, & in many areas of industry, the highest pay rates in the world. You do need to be careful or the labor movement will kill the goose that lays the golden egg.

The unions did it with the car industry, $100,000 for semi skilled process workers can not be paid & have an industry survive.

Anny has done the same grab for excess charges with the mining industry in Queensland. Pay rates for workers have long been very high in that industry, to the advantage of many, but putting the royalty charge up by 500% is not only endangering those jobs, but virtually ensuring such jobs will dry up over time. A government can't just increase charges way beyond the norm internationally to cover bad management of state finances, without strangling the industry involved.

I don't know how we got to the stage when a fair days pay, for both members of a couple was not enough to live well, but that is something that must be laid at the foot of government. Albo is definitely not the man to fix this.

Albanese is a silly little man, with a chip on his shoulder. He is going to prove more damaging than Whitlam & Gillard combined, being driven more by malice than ideology. Many hard working folk are going to suffer from his stupidity through no fault of their own. Hang on to your hat, it is going to get very bumpy very soon.

"Albanese is a silly little man, with a chip on his shoulder."

Very true, Hasbeen: he is wreaking revenge for his single-mother, houso upbringing.

The problem with with all this union/labour nonsense is that people who actually do know what they are talking about have said, in the last couple of days, that the days of low unemployment are coming to an end - thanks to Albanese's mass immigration. More and more people are beginning to line up for the one job; just like the increases in hopeful tenants lining up for limited properties - again caused by the stupid, incompetent Albanese.

Albanese and his commo unions can try to pull these stunts, but there won't be any jobs.

You have to wonder if Albanese has anything except mince inside his head. Making electricity unaffordable. Driving away investment. Sending work overseas. Bringing uneccessary people here. Now ripping off the employers still struggling to survive and provide jobs.

Dear Hasbeen,

I see you are railing once again over the notion of "A fair day's wage for a fair day's work.". Un-Australian in my book but you do you.

The car industry became unviable because the mining boom saw our dollar at $1.10 US for a few years and Abbott chose that time to put the knife in. It is now at .65 but we have lost the skill sets to ever revise the industry now.

Well done to folk like you who applauded it.

For god's sake, SR that was your most useless comment yet. Haven't you noticed it is the Greens who want to shut down the coal industry, but Anny just might beat them to it.

Albo had to guarantee we would maintain coal supply to Japan while there, as they can see the stupidity of this government.

It was the stupidity of Whitlam, Gillard & Rudd who gave us the cost of living we have today, & it will get a lot worse with Albo's immigration.

I suggest you move into as highrise, if you don't already live in one. They'll probably keep the power on in those, worried about people stuck in powerless lifts. Out in the burbs it is going to be dark & cold with idiot Albo, & mad man Bowen running the hatchet through our power systems.

We really do have to acknowledge that this is all about protecting jobs. The problem for the nation is that the jobs they're trying to protect are those of union officils.

SR,

I see you peddling misinformation and outright lies again.

During the Krudd/Juliar regime, 3 of 6 car makers folded and 75% of jobs in the industry were lost. By the time the coalition came to power the car industry subsidy was already more than all the wages of all the employees combined and the industry was still losing $bns. Labor killed the car industry, the coalition just pulled the plug on the corpse.

As for this "A fair day's wage for a fair day's work." this is Labor once again doing the bidding of its Union bosses. That it is going to completely screw up the gig economy and push up the cost of just about everything, the reality is that it is almost certain to destroy full-time jobs and simply create a new form of contracting where the last people to benefit are the employees.

Whitlam, Gillard & Rudd's Vote-buying via the Public Service Unions got us to the dilemma we're faced with now.
Revenue doesn't come from these unproductive voters, it comes from those whom the ignorant intellectuals refer to as the uneducated. It just shows the elite-like condescending mentality they have towards common sense & logical thinkers & do'ers.
One just has to look at where 99.9% of intellectuals are concentrated, the various Govt bureaucracies that's where.
The ABC mob for example demands Qantas pay back the help they got from the Govt. Why not ask for the ABC/SBS to pay back the money they received during the pandemic ? None of them did it tough during those times. What did they produce or sell to create revenue ?

Indy,

Where does your unproductive welfare, come from? You must admit your migration to Australia has imposed nothing more than a net loss on the Australian taxpayer. Is it not hard working disadvantaged taxpayers you have lived off for years. Why do you begrudge these Australians a fair pay?

Why do you begrudge these Australians a fair pay?
Paul1405,
You bureaudroids hard-working ? Well, at self preservation I suppose & making full use of the Peter Principle.

This job-destroying legislation is brought to us by the same clowns that have brought us a per capita recession.

"Australia’s economy grew a mere 0.4% in the June quarter according to figures released by the Bureau of Statistics today, a performance Treasurer Jim Chalmers describes as “steady in the face of unrelenting pressure”.

The lacklustre growth follows growth of 0.4% in the previous quarter, and is a step down from the growth of 0.7% in the quarters that preceded it, presenting a stark reminder of the economic challenges caused by rising interest rates as the Reserve Bank attempts to reign in inflation.

If growth continued at that pace for another two quarters, the annual growth rate would barely reach 1.6%, an alarmingly low figure. For many Australians it probably feels like a recession, because all of the growth was accounted for by population growth, meaning gross domestic product (GDP) per person fell by 0.3% in both March and the June quarters, in a so-called “per capita recession”.

New kind of recession the "per capita" recession, hummmm, brought to you by the same mugs who manufactured a trillion dollars of debt, and put the next few generations on a 100 year repayment plan with interest. Of course after that fiasco they were booted from office with nothing to show for it, except Gerry Harvey and Alan Joyce, their mobs pocketed millions!

the same mugs who manufactured a trillion dollars of debt,
Paul1405,
yes, the same mugs who despite all odds got the Nation through the pandemic fiasco & the perpetual sabotage of the then opposition & the myriad of opposition sabotage supporting bureaudroids such as yourself ! Robodebt was another one the then Govt got more blame for than the opposition supporting bureaudroids who did not exercise their duty to stop it, nah, even the top sheilah was offered a 900grand job by the present clowns until they sacrificed her too !
Yes, what a nice bunch your undermining friends are & I don't think you're much different judging by your remarks !

Indy,

The aged welfare mob are the perfect candidates for the Gig Economy, delivering corporate pizzas on their taxpayer funded moto scooters/golf carts, at a dollar a pop. Yes, the taxpayer is funding these motorise scooters at up to $6,000 a throw! Unbelievably.

Paul,

You're right, the same mugs (labor) that manufactured the $trillion of debt.

Paul1405,
And, how much of that Trillion Dollar debt is now in the hands of those making false claims, negative gearing etc ?
All but a few of the crowd you subscribe to would be a pretty safe guess !

How much of that Trillion Dollar debt have you benefitted from ?

Yes shadowminister it was Labor that destroyed the car industry, but it happened long before Rudd/Gillard, it wax in the Whitlam era.

Remember the Button Plan? The progressive reduction in tariffs, & increases in local content. This forced car makers to pay excessively high prices for components which were simply uneconomic to manufacture here while facing increasingly cheaper imports.

The slow death was aided by ridiculous wage demands by unions. I think a fair days pay for a fair days work is a great idea, but someone needs to get the warfies & process workers to agree to get the idea to work.

Hassy,

When you were in the military, your productivity level was zero, you produced nothing, a bit of war mongering, but that don't count, right. Was your pay zero, based on your zero productivity?

village idiot,

Rising wages combined with static or falling productivity is what sinks entire industries with everyone losing their jobs.

But then the Greens are happy to fiddle while the ship sinks.

The TRILLION DOLLARS OF LIBERAL PARTY DEBT is a major factor in the difficulties now within the Australian economy. ScumO', the self appointed secret minister for everything, along with his useless side kick the incompetent Josh Friedbrain made a total stuff up of the economy. This pair of misfits loaded a 60 year debt onto Australia, with nothing to show for it. Thankfully the whole sorry bunch were booted from the government benches before that could do any further damage.

Village idiot,

The TRILLION DOLLARS OF LABOR PARTY DEBT, is steadily accumulating under the Liebor / gangreen morons and is a millstone around every Australian.

The Australia public are well aware of who are most responsible for creating Australia's TRILLION DOLLARS OF DEBT. Debt is not entirely a bad thing, when the money is put to good use and is at a manageable level. What we got from the pair of LIBERAL PARTY dim wits, ScumO' and Friedbrain, was total irresponsibility in borrowing billions, and squandering the lot, with "free money" with no strings attached, to billionaires from their side of politics. Now Australian's are being forced to go without such things as housing, education, health services infrastructure etc, all because of a pair of irresponsible dim wits from the LIBERAL PARTY in government went on a drunken spending spree, with our borrowed money.

Blaming a Conservative Govt for what sabotage-orientated Labor supporting bureadroids do is about as hypocritical as it can be !

The Australian people know very well who is responsible for the TRILLION DOLLARS OF LABOR PARTY DEBT.

SM,

Just as you believe "Poland started the war",all by invading peace loving Nazi Germany, the Fuhrer said so. And you believe everything the Fuhrer said, Agree?

Village idiot,

Like Goebbels, you think if you lie hard enough and frequently enough people will believe your BS. Sorry, but you are just a liar and a fraud.

Did you learn this in prison?

Aided and abetted by the Morrison Coalition Government, QANTAS illegally sacked 1,700 workers during the pandemic, the High Court has ruled. As a reward the Tories paid QANTAS $2.7 billion in taxpayer gift money, not a cent has been repaid dispirit QANTAS posting a $2.5 billion profit this year.

the Tories paid
Paul1405,
Are Labor supporting bureaudroids Tories now ?

Village idiot,

Lying again I see. Either show that the Coalition "aided and abetted" Joyce in sacking the baggage handling or admit that you are just lying again.

Joyce was originally a Labor Luvvie appointed under the labor government.

I always know when I've hit a sore spot with the Forums resident Tory clown, he comes on with the name calling. We know when in government the Noalition policy was a deliberate one of suppressing wages and boosting profits for Big Business by sacking workers. As we now know during the pandemic, Tory mates of Morrison's were well looked after financially with taxpayer "gift money". At the same time the reprobates stood ideally by an allowed QANTAS to illegally sack 1,700 workers. Now all we have to show for this is a TRILLION DOLLARS OF LIBERAL PARTY DEBT. Sad but true.

BTW "Joy Boy" was NOT appointed by Labor as the CEO of QANTAS, its a private company, you must be delusional.

Village idiot,

Firstly, I see that you have zero evidence that the coalition had anything to do with the retrenchment of the baggage handlers so you were simply LYING as you always do.

Then as I said Joyce was appointed UNDER a Labor government, not BY Labor. Either you are an illiterate twit or are just fraudulently misquoting me again.

Now after all the corruption by labor and the greens all we are left with is a high cost of living and a TRILLION DOLLARS OF LABOR / GREEN PARTY DEBT.

How delusional, "Joyce was originally a Labor Luvvie appointed under the labor government." Martin Bryant murdered 35 people under a Liberal government. I fail to see any connection in both cases.

The Noaltion opposed any pay rise for Australia's lowest paid workers, but were happy to line the pockets of billionaires with free taxpayer "gift money" this see Australia saddled with, A TRILLION DOLLARS OF LIBERAL PARTY DEBT, WITH A 100 YEARS TO REPAY AND NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT!

Now the Noalition is wanting to keep "slave labour" pay and conditions for gig economy workers, sub-contractors and body hire slaves, by opposing Labor's industrial reforms. If there is to be another Noalition government under Dutton, many Australian's can expect to be booted from their homes, unemployed, and starving in the streets! As Pig Bob Menzies the founder of THE LIBERAL PARTY believed; Australia should have a minimum of 10% unemployed, to keep wages at starvation levels, 'Pig Iron' also believed women should be employed for a pittance.

Village idiot,

You are being a LIAR and a FRAUD once again.

After Labor /Gangreens / unions stole and extorted their way through the economy they left a TRILLION DOLLARS OF LABOR / GREEN PARTY DEBT that they never intended to pay.

My guess is that most of that trillion is now in the pockets of parasitic, callous bureaudroids & dishonest businesses & organisations !
Real needy only ever get mention rather than help !

Paul1405 must have done ok out of this Trillion Dollar debt otherwise he'd be bleating a lot more about it !

Aged welfare UP 30 bucks! What is Albo thinking?

Paul1405,
The extra Tax from those $30 will pay for negative gearing parasitism !

Four Corners showed how Qantas was doing just that to it's own staff.
A newspaper I read spoke about Alan Joyces 'spiteful leadership style'
- Tried telling you all gay people are often whiny and spiteful.

But hey lets all celebrate Alan Joyce sexuality like a perverted infatuation and ignore the 17,000 workers he screwed over and the national airline he's painted with rainbows and run into the ground.

Maybe the government will send out some more blank checkbooks to the Qantas shareholders, who care so much about this country they put thousands out of work.

Hi AC,

Nothing to do with being gay, more to do with being a turd! Joyce was a corporate dog, who took Australia for a ride. Piggy back inflation is evident, whereby business is hiking prices simply based on the premise that "everybody's doing it". The ACTU has launched an inquiry into price gouging headed up by Pr Allan Fels. The inquiry will examine price rises across a number of areas including including banks, insurance companies, supermarkets, and energy providers. This I'm sure will come up with some very interesting findings. I recall good old Gaugh's "Prices Justification Tribunal" whereby any mob with a turnover in excess of $20 million p.a, that wanted to hike the price of any goods or services with a value of $100 or more, e.g a car, had to apply to the Tribunal and show justification before being allowed to do so. Seems fair and reasonable to me.