Australia's population is set to hit 40 million people in 40 years time. It's simply something we can't sustain in Australia, and we need to take drastic action - now.

I am openly putting that we put a tough limit on economic migrants to Australia. We have to be affirmative, and we have to consider future generations of people and the environment.

Our rivers will continue to dry up. I mean we can't take water from them forever and with 40 million people in Australia our rivers won't be able to cope with the demand. We can only water so many crops to feed people here and there are only so many places to build homes, unless you want to live in the desert.

Our roads will get busier too and our general lives will be busier as we have to deal with so many more people here.

No, what I have to say here won't be popular, but Australia is generally a well off, high use, materialistic, throw away society. The damage will only get worse as we increase our population to 40 million.

Our population is getting larger, yet we have no serious targets when it comes to reducing climate change or waste going to landfill. We can barely look after those we have here now, including the homeless and those in nursing homes, let alone 40 million people in total in 40 years time.

I call on people to stand with me side by side to see Australia's population kept at a sustainable level.

Both major parties are big immigration fiends, so there is nothing we can do about it. Politicians of all hues have more in common with each other than they have with us, their constituents. The Albanese government’s extreme mass immigration is driving Australia’s housing shortage; but the so-called opposition is saying nothing. So, voting for one or the other party will make no difference; and most voters won't vote for anyone different.

So, Nathan, you are just going to have to suck it up. We all are. It's been a long time since ordinary Australians had any say in their country. Totalitarianism has crept up on us because we are complacent. It's our own stupid fault.

Dear NathanJ and ttbn,

One factor that should determine population limits is the availability of fresh water. Australia has only 3% of the fresh water that the US has, but it is approximately the same size as the US. I don't think the technology is available to either create new rivers or to convert massive amounts of salt to fresh water. Population policy should reflect that fact, but it won't.

Other Australian activities reflect disregard for wise use of Australia's water resources. Growing cotton is water intensive. The US and China have enough fresh water to support that activity. Australia doesn't, but Australia grows cotton.

Agricultural and population policy should take the availability of Australian water resources into account.

#Agricultural and population policy should take the availability of Australian water resources into account.#

The beloved Labor Party is proposing a massive water buy back policy.

More money in the back pocket of wealthy irrigationists, with little expected change.

Since those farms are extensively foreign owned, predominantly US, one can only conclude, a bribe to the US is now on the cards to supply enough water for domestic purposes into the future.

Water will now join energy as unaffordable. We’re being screwed by the US!

There is no shortage of water in Australia. There is a shortage of ability, common sense, dams. Most of the water that hits Australia goes out to sea. As we have two political parties in lockstep on mass immigration, so do we have two political parties in lockstep on incompetence, cowardice and stupidity.

Forger the environment as a reason to stop immigration. Nobody really cares about the environment, as the current desecration of the environment - rain forest and farming land - with hideous windmills and solar panels clearly shows. Australian people simply do not want any more people here; unnecessary people from Third World countries who can't be understood. These people are being used by really nasty politicians to further divide our country and smother our identity.

Let's have the honesty and courage to say what we mean.

Lunatics at Redland Bay primary school in Brisbane are teaching little kids that non-indigenous people are not to be called Australians, white people or settlers; they are to be known as non-indigenous people, non-indigenous Australians, colonisers, occupiers, or people of European descent.

Where does that leave the masses of immigrants who are neither white, colonisers, or European?

Dear ttbn,

I have no objection to people of a different culture coming to Australia. I have no objection to people of a different or no religion coming to Australia. The identity changed when the English settled the country. I have no objection to continuing change. Identity is not a constant.

A few generations back none of my ancestors spoke English. It is now my language. Having people of a non-English culture coming to Australia need not divide the country. We can learn to live together.

We can learn about the cultures in third world countries and be better for it. I applaud the disappearance of white Australia.

The environment is my concern not identity. There is a shortage of fresh water in Australia compared to that available in the USA and China.

We have different concerns.

Humans have the intelligence, the tools and the
natural resources to provide for a good sustainable
life as long as there are not so many humans that we
exceed the globe's carrying capacity. All the evidence
suggests that we must turn around population growth and
aim for a much smaller population than we have today.

David F., is right water shortages in this country is
only one of the problems we face in the 21st century.
Poverty is another, and the list goes on.

the masses of immigrants who are neither white, colonisers, or European?
ttbn,
Everyone who settles here is a Colonist including the new, non-genuine Indigenous !

David Llewellyn-Smith, Chief Strategist at the MB Fund and MB Super, and founding publisher and editor of 'MacroBusiness', writes that what he calls the 'AlboGreens' - the "fake left" - are so focussed on "social trivia" that they are that they are happy to conduct a class war on vulnerable Australians "via reckless population growth".

. more than 1,600 people are pushed into homelessness each month
. New South Wales’s priority social housing waitlist has doubled in less than a decade and surged by 1,000 to 7,573 over the past year
. This year the population has increased by 2.5%. The number of dwellings in the country has increased by 1.5%

AlboGreens squabble over "non-solutions to their own crisis", pretending to build 6,000 houses annually, when 250,000 are needed to prevent the situation getting worse.

Our immigration system needs an overhaul
according to Sydney University. We're told that
temporary visa numbers have been uncapped
since the Howard government. And they have been
growing faster then permanent visa numbers. Temporary
migrant workers apparently have doubled in the past
15 years.

This is concerning. Australia may become a "guest-worker"
society like Germany post World War II. It can cause harm
to Australia and to migrants and under mine community
confidence in the migration system.

It can lead to migrant worker exploitation.

We need to match the right intake to Australia's needs.
We have an ageing population and reduced productivity.
We also need the development of skills. Capping will be
crucial to this and immigration can play a role.

In any case the Albanese Government does have a plan:

http://theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/apr/27/albanese-government-to-radically-streamline-australia-with-three-tiered-system-for-skilled-workers#

My apologies. I mistyped the link.

Here it is again:

http://theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/apr/27/albanese-government-to-radically-streamline-australia-migration-with-three-tiered-system-for-skilled-workers#

Well, whatever you might think of population growth, Australia has no chance of maintaining living standards whilst a cultist political party pursues renewable energy insanity.

Although I differ with Alan B's MSR dreaming, I wish that his hopes of cheap and abundant energy would come to fruition as it can make an awful lot of things economically viable.

"Australia's population to hit 40m in 40 years - we must take action now!"

30% of the country were not born here, and if you add in their kids..
Many don't relate to the old Australia, they support the multicultural idea and identify as immigrants.

- Any attempt to lessen the intake will have you called racist and be opposed by the business council of Australia, as well as economists who are always banging on about growth, but want immigration to constrain wage growth, and don't forget the government uses immigration to keep the economy afloat via construction, and the left probably likes the support it may get from those people.

"I am openly putting that we put a tough limit on economic migrants to Australia."

When you say 'we' who exactly?
I agree with you, but you should know that it's likely a losing battle.
- Whether it makes sense to limit population growth or not.

And don't forget that as time passes and more people come and identify as immigrants, new governments will just go back on things and change the rules back to please there pro-multicultural immigrant identifying constituents.
What can we do?

I'd love to be optimistic about it, but realistically I think it would be an ongoing but losing battle.
- This country was taken away from its citizens decades ago.

Unless the insanity of vote buying via unskilled migrants is stoped, Australia is well placed to become a place worse than where such people come from !
The revenue creating workforce is gradually diminishing & the revenue guzzling force is already increasingly fighting among themselves as to which useless bureaudroid to con next for handouts !

Kudos NathanJ for the thread.