"So why lie?"

Maybe because it wasn't the only lab that had containment breaches.
http://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/05/health/germs-fort-detrick-biohazard.html
*Take note of the dates here.
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/respiratory-illness-sickens-dozens-at-virginia-retirement-community/148617/
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/health-officials-to-give-update-after-respiratory-illness-sickens-dozens-at-virginia-retirement-community/135890/

These locations are actually quite close to one another.
http://tinyurl.com/pu7de9m7

Dangerous lab leaks happen far more often than the public is aware
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/30/lab-leaks-shrouded-secrecy

Have you actually looked into existing policies for containment and quarantine of staff after a lab leak?
It's really bad policy, they just send staff home to quarantine after an event and the staff themselves are trusted to report changes themselves.
- It's not the kind of foolproof protocol one would expect let me tell you.
I watched a video on it a few years back, not sure I'd be able to find it now sorry.

You're quick to jump to blaming the Chinese, but do you understand you're only thinking what you think because you are a westerner.

If you were Chinese, reading Chinese news, you might be making the exact opposite assumptions.

U.S. closure of Fort Detrick lab not coincidental: expert
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2021-08/04/c_1310107970.htm

What happened in the US after the emergency closure of Fort Detrick?
http://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202107/29/WS61027e0ca310efa1bd665573.html

And what was 'Event 201' all about in October 2019 just prior to the outbreak, 'Mr. I'm so certain'?
http://centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/tabletop-exercises/event-201-pandemic-tabletop-exercise

"The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation hosted Event 201, a high-level pandemic exercise on October 18, 2019, in New York, NY. The exercise illustrated areas where public/private partnerships will be necessary during the response to a severe pandemic in order to diminish large-scale economic and societal consequences."

*Emphasis: October 18, 2019.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic

"The novel virus was first identified in an outbreak in the Chinese city of Wuhan in December 2019."

*Emphasis: December 2019.

[Cont.]

And what about the fact that Coronavirus was detected before that?

Researchers find coronavirus was circulating in Italy earlier than thought
http://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27W1J2

ROME (Reuters) - The new coronavirus was circulating in Italy in September 2019, a study by the National Cancer Institute (INT) of the Italian city of Milan shows, signaling that it might have spread beyond China earlier than thought.

*Emphasis - September 2019

As usual, you are just trying to reinforce your pre-existing beliefs and biases.
I knew about this stuff AT THE TIME IT HAPPENED (mhaze),
- Because George Webb was covering it and I was following him at that time.

George theorised that it was released by the West at the Military Games in Wuhan in October 2019.
http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=virus+released+at+wuhan+military+games

- FYI, I personally don't know what the truth of this was or whether George changed his opinion or stuck to it.
I always took caution as to whether the virus was engineered as a bioweapon.
I didn't want covid, or the vaccine either.
- But I did have Covid (or at least think I did - I got sick but never got tested, just self isolated) - twice after the pandemic was more or less already over and infections had been decreasing already for some time..

(Same as I knew about the Russian language ban in 2014 because I was following the events - I probably got the info from Lee Stranahan, who was the only serious western commentry on the Ukraine situation from the time of the Maidan and prior to Russia formally recognising the independence of the LPR and DPR and entering the conflict in 2022, but I digress)

Facts be damned ALL OF YOU....
Sorry to throw a wrench into your narrative...

And Foxy,
Are you talking about yourself in the third person or do multiple people share your account?
I've got no problems if hubby's chiming in btw,
Maybe he should get his own account or maybe you should change your alias to Foxy and Co. or something.
[shrugs shoulders]

"As with the claims about the vaccine, we were lied to."
- I won't argue with you on that one.

But I tried to warn you all at the time.

Some of us here are unvaxxed and proud, (me for one) so you know where I stand on that.

Too bad for all the people who believed the advice without any reservations, just went along with it and suffered side effects (or just dropped dead for no apparent reason), or their kids got sick or died, and the guilt those parents carry for believing the lie -
- Especially after the guilt, coercion, intimidation and shaming many received from the pro-vax camp as well as every business moron jumping on the bandwagon.

Jeez, I even remember Jims Moving chiming in,
Every damn business and multinational was promoting it.
paying people, offering incentives, and 'hate' and 'derision';
- well it was rife towards the unvaxxed
Every single channel, every single newsreader.
Every. Single. Day.

I remember the pro-vax opposition I got from many here.
Many sheep have blood on their hands for that damn mess.
Some of you lot may have conveniently forgotten but I haven't.

AC whines:" You're quick to jump to blaming the Chinese, "

You're right. The Chinese lab was doing research into the various corona viruses. The out-break occurred in China. Chinese scientists moved rapidly to hide papers on their research. Chinese scientists were among the first to die from the virus. Other Chinese scientists involved in the research have simply gone missing. China tried hard for over a month following the out-break to hide it and then tried hard to hide information about human to human transmission.

You're right....why would I think China has anything to do with this?

But AC, please note, this isn't about China and their bastardry in regards to creating and disseminating the virus. This is about US scientific efforts to misled the public as to the origins of the virus and how those efforts morphed into censorship and cancellation of people trying to tell the truth. Its a lesson from the recent past as to how the powers that be are manipulating data and facts to their financial and career benefits and how the media is complicit in that manipulation.

Facts about issues as diverse as vaccines, lockdowns, climate change and aboriginal history are being distorted and manipulated and then run through corporate media filters to ensure the public get and believe only approved opinions.

And its extraordinarily dangerous, although as we see even in this group, many refuse to see it.

Anyone reading posts by SR, & their anti OZ anti western values in general should keep well in mind, that in all posts he is preaching from the lefty hymn book.

The left are becoming more dangerous to our wellbeing daily. Communism can do no wrong in the eyes of this lot.

mhaze,

You are a typical Trumpster, full of conspiracy theories, just like Trump himself, exaggerations and extrapolations abound in your paranoid thinking. Maybe there was Chinese scientific involvement in the development of the Covid virus, until there is a thorough independent investigation into its origins we wont know.

One thing we do know, it was Trumps inability to deal with the Covid situation, and his inability to lead America in a pandemic crises that led to the unnecessary deaths of hundreds of thousands of people.