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Wind and solar are propping up the Texas power grid amid a brutally long heat wave
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Posted by WTF? - Not Again, Saturday, 29 July 2023 8:14:04 AM
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I read the headline something, but went no further because as you say, it is ludicrous. If renewables supplied 30% to 70% of the power, presumably fossil fuels were supplying the rest, and would have been supplying 100% if there was no wind or sun. We have had the same silly talk in SA - without mention of the interstate interconnector supplying us with coal-generated power whenever we need it, which is all the time when there is no wind or sun. We do have gas generators that they didn't blow up as they did the one coal plant. To say that renewables saved the day in Texas is bloody stupid. Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 29 July 2023 12:36:35 PM
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ttbn says "... but went no further because as you say, it is ludicrous." Maybe you should have gone further as it is not my saying this but those involved in the energy industry. I'll put more importance on that information than the opinion of someone who stops after the headline. ttbn says:"... would have been supplying 100% if there was no wind or sun." The problem with that is the maximum output would not meet consumers need for energy. Further more "Renewables have been a lifeline for the Texas grid as some older thermal plants have gone offline throughout the summer." And "“You have the thermal outages being consistent in that high level and renewables doing quite well throughout the summer.” In a different thread you said "Follow the money". In Texas the money is following renewables despite the Republican government giving thermal electricity generators those Republican despised handouts and adding those Republican despised layers of red tape directed at renewables. Posted by WTF? - Not Again, Saturday, 29 July 2023 1:03:38 PM
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I was agreeing with you. I won't bother again. Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 29 July 2023 1:18:29 PM
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From ttbn's post: "To say that renewables saved the day in Texas is bloody stupid." From my post: "Renewables have been a lifeline for the Texas grid as some older thermal plants have gone offline throughout the summer." ttbn follows u with "I was agreeing with you. I won't bother again." ........ O..K...... Posted by WTF? - Not Again, Saturday, 29 July 2023 1:34:31 PM
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Hello WTF?,
The Washington Post, June 29th 2023 told us that: " The US Nation's top oil-and-gas-producing state has managed to keep the lights on - at least so far because of abundant solar panels, wind turbines, and giant batteries that store clean energy." "You hear those talking points that renewables aren't reliable. But there's little that is more reliable," says Doug Lewin, President of the Austin based clean energy consulting firm - Stoic Energy. Also, Forbes points out that: "Clean energy already employs more than 42,000 Texans and has attracted nearly $100 billion of in-state investment and more is on the way. By 2030 the Inflation Reduction Act could create more than 100,000 new clean energy jobs in Texas while adding $15 billion to the state's GDP." http://forbes.com/sites/energy/innovation/2023/07/16/renewables-and-storage-got-texas-grid-through-this-heat-wave-but-the-state-legislature-still-hasnt-fixed-its-underlying-problems/?sh=b4936a6d1 Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 29 July 2023 1:46:10 PM
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According to CNN Business: "As Texas bakes under a sweltering heat dome this summer and people crank their air conditioners, the state’s energy demand has smashed records. But the power has stayed on and prices haven’t spiked tremendously.
Thank wind and solar, energy experts say.
Despite some anti-renewable bills introduced in the Texas legislature this year, the state has been adding renewables — particularly solar — at an incredible clip.
Renewable energy was providing 30 to 40% of the power the state needed according to analysis of state data.
To represent to the public that if we just had more of these fossil fuel plants, everything would be fine, is ludicrous. That’s not to say renewables are a panacea, but the point is thermal plants are also not a panacea.”
The world is changing even in that reddest of red states - Texas.