SM,

Name the ex HC Judge you claim said the Voice will end up in litigation before the court. You made it up, you are full of it.

Guys take care debating with people like Paul1405. Communist principles don't really care about people they care about power- examples in hebrew author Saul Alinsky's book- the argument is not the argument- not the point. The argument used to distract enemies from the real issue. Take your time- read a couple of times- then compile your response. Paul1405 doesn't care about the issue- he cares about the meta issues. It's pointless to argue with people like Paul1405- you lose as you engage- that doesn't mean you don't comment on what they say. Like prompting the enemy to attack your shock troops and then flanking them with your veterans. Communists don't engage in honest debate as far as I can see. In the TV Series "Suits" Harvey Spector says "play the man not the game".

They often play a pretty tight game but cover it by acting and saying ridiculous things. As they say there are those that agree with you, those that don't, and those silent in the middle. The silent are the ones you need to convince- but it's hard to know what they believe- because they don't say much- there's a dynamic.

In a sense Communist political tactics are similar to "move and cover" tactics of the military. Perhaps this is why Mao was successful in both domains.

Many people don't trust themselves in powerful positions because they are self reflective and conscientious- Communists don't seem to have this caution and in this sense are perhaps sociopathic- they seem to believe that they should get power first and then work out how to use it responsibly later. This is one reason perhaps that traditionalism is in a sense a superior ideology- but one needs to be aware of deception. As Nietzsche says- The Roman "knightly code" can be honest and the "priestly code" can be deceptive.

Some have explained hebrew writer Asimov's Psycho-History levels of civilization in terms of stages from animus to systemic- multi-perspectivism. Perhaps this represents how the sociopathic priestly code can be encapsulated within the genuine knightly code.

Nietzsche apparently felt that the codification of Christianity originated in the conflict between Middle Eastern Hebrew and European Roman cultures. You could argue that the Roman's won the physical conflict but lost the ideological to the Hebrew created code. But over time the European's "owned" Christianity so in a sense the Christian code is perhaps a combination of the Roman knightly and ideologically (but not ethnically) Hebrew created Christian priestly codes.

Blindly supporting the YES is like handing over a signed open cheque & wilfully condemning people on the lower economic scale to an existence of no hope for improvement.
Just take note of the people pushing it for their agenda.

CM

Bravo! Although I don't think there is any 'debating' on OLO; a lot of disagreement, snapping and snarling - and that's it. My prescription for dealing with ignoramuses is, increasingly, to ignore them: i.e people like the wankerdoodle you refer to. Cheers for the communist reference, which is most appropriate - communism is always with us, in various guises including the Green Party and its adherents.

Fortunately, we now only have this one real idiot on OLO - plus a few cameo appearances from SteeleRedux - who can be silenced simply by being ignored.

Jerks need an audience. We don't have to provide them with one.

After a Yes vote there’ll be a huge waste of Tax Dollars such as has never been seen before & the same types of incompetent hangers-on & bureaudroids will steer this Nation towards Civil War !