https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-13/dominic-perrottet-digs-in-amid-nazi-costume-storm/101851782

Perhaps this is a storm in a teacup.
But I would like to know what others think about this 'contretemps'.
My own thoughts run along the following lines....

Almost all young persons will do something rash or in poor taste as they move from being children in to adult life.
It is a necessary part of their growth.
They are finding out what is real and what is not.
To judge their suitability for later life on all or some of their early antics, is quite absurd?
In fact, by making mistakes at the right time, they grow emotionally, and become better citizens.

There is no reason to believe Mr Perrottet was thinking dark thoughts when he went to the fancy dress costume party.
Do we know what prompted him to dress as he did?
The people he represents should be thankful he had such a varied upbringing?
Because of it, he became a better person?
And they chose him because of what he became?

Were we to apply this (crazy) standard to all young persons, half of our the population would be in the dog house?
The truth is: people should be more objective when they assess the importance of what is happening around them?
And they live in glass houses, so should not throw stones.
Unless it is absolutely necessary to do so.
And this time it is not?

It didn't stop Harry being a prince, but it did make many think him incredibly stupid. I doubt that Dom would be paid 100 mil to prove the point beyond reasonable doubt.

What the NSW Premier did when he was 21?
And how old is he today?

Plus he's also apologised for his youth.

Storm in a tea-cup!

So what! He was young and silly. The same people who rubbish Perottet will also think that even younger and sillier 16 year olds should be allowed to vote.

That this nonsense was brought up by one of his own just shows how the political factions in NSW are interested only in themselves and not the state.

Labor is a Monty to win the election, so it doesn't matter anyway. I thought Perottet's apology was pathetic, but in keeping with his general character.

Dominic Perrottet will get re-elected in NSW.

He's a rare breed. He's intelligent, flexible,
and is doing a great job! He also puts voters and
not the party first.

A rare breed indeed.

It takes real morons to make this an issue !

I'm certainly am prepared to cut him some slack on this one especially given what I got up to around that age when bad taste parties were all the rage.

However it is worth noting that the age of criminal responsibility in NSW is still 10, and that calls to take that to 14 are getting stronger.

"NSW must move urgently to raise age of criminal responsibility"
http://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/nsw-must-move-urgently-to-raise-age-of-criminal-responsibility-20221219-p5c7en.html

Perhaps the premier might like to reflect at what age the excuse of acting "young and foolish' no longer applies.

The Left is using this non-event to bellow that the NSW Liberal party is falling apart. It certainly is falling apart, but not because of what one of them did two decades ago.

It is falling apart because it is eating itself up from the inside. One of their scumbags used this bit of youthful stupidity against his own leader. The party is riddled with factions. With 'friends' like that, the Parrot doesn't need enemies.

The NSW Liberal Party was rooted the day it decided to put an aboriginal flag on the Sydney Harbour Bridge. If that isn't enough to do them in, there is the idiot Green Kean.

Nazi Dom, Liberal Party member at 21, well into conservative politics at 21, anti-communist at 21, dressing up in his Nazi uniform at 21, I suppose it saved on hiring a Coco the Clown outfit. At 40 Dom likes to lock up 10 year old's as criminals. All speaks volumes for the character of the bloke.

P/s Nazi Dom was content to keep it all a dark secret for 19 years as he progressed up the ladder of conservative politics. All apologetic when flushed out! What does that tell you?

p/p/s, for any of the aspiring Oberfuhrer's on the Forum, there must be a couple, Dom's got a very snappy, hardly worn, uniform going cheap on 'Marketplace'. Been hanging in his skeleton closet for 19 years.

My opinion, put Nazi Dom in the trash can of politics where he belongs.

BTW are there any pics of the Labor bloke in a Joe Stalin outfit? Should make for an interesting election!

The Liberals are falling apart because of in-Party jealousy & Labor is imploding due to lack of wisdom !

I have a great many thoughts about a great many things.
So expanding a little on what I said before....
He might be a shining example of perfect citizenship, or he might be all sorts of a ratbag.
Or something in between.
(politicians don't 'automatically' gravitate to the lower end of the scale do they?)
It is up to his electorate to decide.

But do we have the right to paint him black because of his youthful antics?
No we do not.
The principles we choose to apply here have a wider significance.
They shine a light on our ability to assess a situation in a realistic manner.
They shine a light on our ability to understand and accept imperfection.
They highlight our ability to judge someone by what they do now, not on long-past youthful over-exuberance.
I might not agree with his politics, but I don't want to see him ostracised for no good reason.

Hopefully, we won't put on (collective) blinkers, and become victims of the 'gossip mill'?
The gossip mill is past master at grinding the essence of any person in to meaningless powder.

Hi IF,

I agree. The Premier of NSW should be judged by his
performance in his current job today. Not for the costume he
wore to his 21st Birthday Party decades ago.

People go to parties dressed as pirates, & pirates were in their day, just about as bad as Nazis.

Guess it is the period since the nasties were around that dictates the response.

And I thought I was the only one awake on a saturday afternoon. ^_^
I am pleased to find that I am not.
And I am still waiting for someone to comment on Jerrod Carmichael.
The Golden Globes host who said: 'I'm here because I'm black'
That comment shouldn't go by without response.

Hi Foxy,

Been away a week up north, took the wife away for a well earned rest.

At the age of 21 I would have considered myself man enough not to ever contemplate dressing up in a Nazi uniform for any occasion, party or otherwise. Perrottet was a senior member of the Young Liberals at the time, and more than most would have understood the implications of Nazism. His failure to come clean on this over the past 19 years shows a dishonest streak within his character, and a willingness to hide from the truth to further his personal political ambitions.

Here's a bloke holding the highest political office in NSW, who thinks there should be no consequences for his manly actions at aged 21, other than 'I'm sorry I got found out" and that's all it is, yet he see it as appropriate to lock up 10 year old's as a consequence for their childish actions at half his age. Double standard

considered myself man enough not to ever contemplate dressing up in a Nazi uniform for any occasion, party or otherwise.
Paul1405,
But you don't have any qualm being as vindictive as one !

The Premier of NSW should be judged by his
performance in his current job today.
Foxy,
Precisely !

Indy,

Having a go at me, I've said nothing about YOU... yet. You would have no problem with Dom in his snappy uniform, after all there was another bloke in history in a similar outfit you also admired. Suits your extreme racists views on people of colour. Knowing I have Aboriginal heritage, you called me a "concrete jungle bunny". So whose vindictive?

So whose vindictive?
Paul1405,
You, hands-down !

It's all a matter of perspective or which party you belong to.

Albozo was linked to the communist party as they were massacring their own citizens.

Shorten while married knocked another man's wife and then ditched his wife, after being accused of rape of a Labor intern.

Burke took his mistress on a taxpayer-funded junket around Europe then ditched his wife for his mistress.

Hawke shagged his way through scores of women and then ditched his wife for a mistress.

Perrottet at 21 put on a Nazi uniform at a costume party.

Go figure.

SM,

All you say of Labor may well be true, or untrue, but whatever the case it is deflection from a real issue, that being Nazi Dom in a snappy Hitler like uniform, has 19 years later been outed by no less than a senior Liberal colleague or should I say enemy. Why now 10 weeks before the State election, why did he keep this dark secret for so long.

I take it from your comment you'll be voting a BIG NUMBER ONE for Nazi Dom come March.

I went to several costume parties in the past dressed
as different characters. From a Roman slave-girl to
dracula to a nun's costume riding a float at my university's
Commemaration Day. They were fun moments - and I've moved on
since then. Perhaps for Premier Perrotet that was the only
costume available at the time or he did it on a dare - cut the
man some slack.

Does anyone else remember the time when the
Soviet regime broke down, the Berlin Wall fell,
how t-shirts with the hammer and sickle became
popular - people wore them. It was a fad. And the
Che Gueverra t-shirts? I remember how upset dad was
at seeing young people with those. Castro was also popular.

Of course not in our house - but in quite a few of the
neighbours. Go figure.

Straw Man Paul1405 is grasping at every bit of straw he can in his regurgitation exercises of past mistakes & wrongs to gain support for his insidious agenda.
I wonder what he'd have to say if someone dressed up as Paul1405 at a party ?
He is the Prince Harry of OLO !

So Paul,

I take it that you would prefer to vote for the Stalinist Albozo, the Rapist or the petty thieves such as Burke?

Very few people alive today have had any dealings with Nazis, including those now making a fuss about some idiot at a fancy dress party for his 21st two decades ago. There was less fuss when an idiot member of the Royal Family did the same thing.

Do you expect better from low-life politicians? Stop playing pocket billards and think of something important to talk about.

Hi Foxy,

Without looking up that actual quote of Winston Churchill, when a young Conservative MP, looking across the chamber at the Labour MP's, said to WC; "The enemy look rather formidable!"...Churchill replied; " My boy, they are His Majesties Loyal Opposition....the enemy are seated behind us!"

Perrottet is leaning that lesson now.

Hi SM,

Nah, knew of AA in the mid 90's in the adjoining seat of Grayndler, he was seen as from the right of the ALP, some thought AA was centre-left, maybe he was. Graydler had always been been a solid Labor seat, and therefore had been neglected by both sides of politics for years, don't think Albanese did much to improve that situation for the locals for the time he has been the member.

"Very few people alive today have had any dealings with Nazis", like those frosty old 'Cold War' warriors still claiming the Reds are under the beds, they are there at every turn, infiltrating, undermining, taking control. These guys believe everyone left of "Genghis Khan" is a down right Communist, applying some such label to those they disagree with! A couple of posts before this one there is a claim Albanese is a Stalinist, the reality is there are few if any Nazi's or Communists in positions of power and influence within Western Democracies. The tags Nazi and Communist are simply that, meaningless tags. What there is, is forms of extremism within western societies, and the most powerful influence within the most powerful nation on Earth, America, is right wing extremist within their Republican Party. Australia has something similar within the liberal Party, but not as pronounced as it is in America.

BTW; Politics is an unforgiving game and Nazi Dom will get his comeuppance, sooner or later, that's just how it is.

Paul,

I don't know whether you are suffering from dementia, but Albozo has been on the far-left/ communist sympathiser for a fair while and certainly within the last decade was on the far-left whinge of the Labor party.

But as you come from the extreme left whinge, anyone right of Stalin is "right" for you.

shadowminister,

You do realize that Stalin is dead?

Please explain how you're making your assumptions
about our Prime Minister's politics. On what do you base
your theories?

SM,

I'm not sure that Albo is a Communist sympathiser, which particular Communists does he actually sympathise with? Albo was dirty on the Greens claiming they were "stealing his rightful votes", changed his tune when he realised Green preferences could be important to his future electoral success.

Hi Paul,

Our PM supports the Ukraine against Putin.
So I agree with you. Our PM is not pro
totalitarianism.

Hi Foxy,

On recent performance one would say Albanese is a centre moderate, looks for a high degree of consensus in his political approach. I can't understand SM's fixation with Stalin, everyone is a Stalinist according to the lad, including Albo, myself and Genghis Khan. Foxy are you also a Stalinist? I think SM is a Stalinist, just like Mother Teresa and Noddy! He's not alone on this Forum claiming the RED's are under every bed!

Foxy,

Stalin is dead and so are the Nazis.

Anthony Albanese was interviewed by the Communist Party of Australia newspaper in 1991. He is pictured in the paper. His communist links are well documented as are many of his extreme left views at Uni and afterwards.

However, we are led to believe that he has reformed and is now a moderate centrist. DP on the other hand wore a costume to a party and is thus an unreformed nazi according to the village idiot.

Let's see how the left whinger treats one of their own for a similar transgression.

"A Melbourne politician has apologized over a post she shared to social media in 2017 in which she appeared to trivialize Nazism.

Independent candidate for Kooyong Dr Monique Ryan shared a meme, obtained by The Australian, to Facebook five years ago that replicated Adolf Hitler’s autobiography, Mein Kampf."

Shonky,

You have broken our truce, calling me village idiot! 'Pig Iron' Bob the founder of the Liberal Party was a known Nazi, having visited Nazi Germany in 1938, that's out-does a newspaper interview. 'Pig Iron' returned with glowing reports of the fantastic regime under Hitler, however he was most disappointed he didn't get to meet with the Fuhrer personally for a fireside chat!

BTW; Who said Nazi Dom was wearing a costume? For all we know it might have been his regular work gear, as he wasn't able to hire a Yogi Bear outfit from the store!

I see the regime in NSW is hiding the release of the ICAC 'Gladys Report' until after the state election. Must contain some juicy material, shock and horror, can't wait. It will make Archy Pell look like a choirboy, got that wrong Archy was into the choir all the time.

Sorry Shonky,

I can't see how "appeared to trivialize" matches goose-stepping around the church hall in your Hermann Goring outfit, giving out sieg heil salutes are comparable.

BTW; This Ryan woman is not one of us, she's more likely to be one of you.

The NSW Liberals are fighting among themselves, and the opposition leader - probably soon to be the premier - says Perottet's clowning won't make a difference. Whether or not that means that Minns thinks that the whole thing is irrelevant, as sensible people do, or he thinks the government is rooted anyway, is not clear.

Pauliar,

Anyone that can't see that wearing a costume is less toxic than trivializing the holocaust either deserves the title of village idiot or anti-Semitic bigot.

As for goose-stepping, that was adopted in Russia before Germany and greatly favoured by the Soviet Union, so I would guess that the gangreens would be wearing black uniforms and goose-stepping through central Melbourne.

"The NSW Liberals are so dysfunctional that rival factions keep ‘’dirt-sheets’’ on each other and keep photos for 20 years hoping to use them for future factional black-mail".

I am not saying who said that due to the liking of some posters to call sources names instead of concentrating on the subject.

I don't know if it's true, but given that everything that is said about them, and now this uniform rubbish when the premier was a boy, I suspect that it could be true.

True or not, the NSW Liberal party, like its federal namesake, needs to be kicked out; not because of the premier's youthful stupidity, but because of the entire Liberal organisation's stupidity for turning its back on its supporters and its own principles and values.

It isn't, and never was, a conservative party, but it was the best thing we had to combat socialism. Not any more. Tell them to piss off, and see if they can mend their ways. A couple of terms under Labor is not the worst thing to happen if it gets what used to be our natural party of government back into line.

Shonky Dear Boy,

Give us a link, then I can "investigate" for myself. In my wife's lingo a "meme" is not something you want to share with others. you do it alone in the wharepaku. This 'Australian" isn't it a part of the Murdoch Gutter Press, never to be believed with its fake news, and downright lies! Anyway she's one of yours, not one of ours.

Again you lie!

"LEOPOLD of Anhalt-Dessau, known as 'Old Snoutnose', set psalms to march tunes and devised the 54 movements of Prussian drill, including the ceremonial march-past with unbent leg that came to be known as the goose-step." YOUR DEAR OLD UNCLE SNOUTNOSE no less! What do you say to that?

Just when we were becoming forum pals once more, you start calling me names, do you have no shame?

Pauliar,

What I meant was that the Soviet Union was goose-stepping before the Nazis even existed and long after.

If you use goose-stepping as a reference to the Nazis you are actually referring more to the Soviets and other communist dictatorships.

From my reading...

"Perrottet dressed as a Nazi: do voters - especially those who aren't rusted on to one party or another - really care about the NSW Premier's daft decision to attend his own 21st birthday party dressed so offensively?

Probably not. After all, the Jewish community itself has accepted his apology and there are much more pressing issues in Australia's most populous state.

If the Sydney train or hospital systems melt down just before the March election, then Perrottet has a real problem.

The story is a stormtrooper in a teacup."

Hi Mavs,

Some news on Transport NSW, the mob the Coalition awarded the contract to run 'Sydney Buses' are in meltdown, they cannot meet performance standards by a factor of 10 some days 20. They have applied to the Minister to change to a Sunday timetable with peak hour variations, that will cause absolute chaos for the travailing public. The investigation into the operator has recommended the contract be torn up and the bus system be returned to State Transit, the government operator. The Coalition is desperately trying to keep a lid on things until after the state election in March.

p/s State Transit would get into a flap if their run time variation and cancellation exceeded the bench mark 0.5% for this private mob it has been as high as 40%, normal day 105 to 20%. They though they would come in, make the big cuts, and it would all be super profits. How wrong they were. Driver training has gone out the window, with introduced cuts.

p/p/s My son tells me they are desperate, employing imbeciles, the new depot manager came from a two bob operation out west with 20 buses to running an outfit with 450 buses, totally lost. One new female driver who had never driven anything bigger than a small automatic car, had 4 accidents in her first 3 days on the road. There are new divers who can't even reverse park, and they are being let loose on Sydney's streets!

And yet, many are still against a National Service where young people could ease into acquiring life skills & get housed, fed & paid whilst doing so !
Stop blaming the unskilled ignorant when the selfish & greedy are doing everything they can to be kept in the public Service whilst they deny the young a start in life.
We just need to remember those on this Forum who object being called bureaudroids because that's what they are !
Perrotted wasn't Premier when he attended a party dressed in hindsight bad taste. Focus on the bureaudroids that ARE in power dressed as politicians when they're mere useless selfish incompetents !

"The Australian" April 15 2011 reported that Leftist Andrew Wilkie was alleged to have ordered military cadets at Duntroon to salute the 50th anniversary of Adolf Hitler's rise to power. It was also alleged that Wilkie punished "one defiant teenager" who refused the order.

At the time, Wilkie had "no recollection" of the incident.

What a beat up from a forum clown;

2011, Murdoch gutter press, reported, alleged to have ordered, alleged to have punished, here we are 12 years later and this bird brain puts this nonsense up. How long do we have to wait for this alleged nonsense to be proven to be fact or fiction.

The only one around here saluting Hitler is some crazy old conservative who thinks everyone else is a Commo!

How long do we have to wait for this alleged nonsense to be proven to be fact or fiction.
Paul1405,
For as long as there are Paul1405's !

I should have known that it was OK to drag up something that a non-Leftist did 22 years ago, but something that a Leftist did only 12 years was verboten by one of OLO's narcissistic trolls.

Hi Indy,

There is a bit of a difference between Nazi Dom flagellating himself over his fascism in 2023, and vague acquisitions by the Septic Tank in his gutter press garbage in 2011, against on of Australia's finest members of parliament. You do agree?

ttbn,

Do you not see the difference? The non-leftist admits to his actions, whereas all YOU have is an unsubstantiated claim in one of Murdoch's rags back in 2011.

BTW; You without provocation called me a f-wit recently, so who is the Nasty Forum Troll, you sir are the nastiest of the nastiest, YOU think yourself to be so sanctimonious. Yes you give it to me, and I'll give it back to YOU in spades.

Paul

Whatever.

against on of Australia's finest members of parliament
Paul1405,
And, who'd that be ? Wilkie ? This character has shown his character for all to assess and, fine is 100% the wrong word !

Nazi's have been arrested in Brisbane, yesterday!

"Queensland counter-terrorism police have charged three men in relation to the displaying of neo-Nazi material, after conducting raids on three separate addresses across south-east Queensland."

The dangers of Neo-Nazi extremism should be taken seriously, as I have said in the past, these small, but active cells, not only infiltrate forums like this one to post hate speak, but may well be planning far more sinister acts against the general public. Dom dressing up in his Nazi outfit just gives encouragement and a degree of legitimacy to these ratbags.

Paul,

I can see that you get a hard-on whenever anyone mentions Nazis. I bet you goose step around in your black cap and leather chaps in front of a mirror.

SM,

For you who admitted to making a "pilgrimage" of sorts to Christchurch after the massacre there. I can not recall you posting one word of condemnation of the far right pin-up boy Brenton Tarrant. In fact at the time I took it as you offering excuses for the actions of a "misunderstood folk hero", never a word of condolence from you for the 51 victims.

Now who is goose stepping around in their black cap and leather chaps in front of a mirror?

Can anyone actually explain the fundamental difference between a hard line Leftist & a Nazi ?
I can't see any !
PC was first used by the Nazis & has lately become a tool for the Woke. Join a Union or get black-listed is not all that far removed from joining the Nazis or get the shorter end of the stick.
As I said, what exactly is the difference !

Pauliar,

Once again you are lying. What's worse is that you are so bad at it. BT your mate who gives you a hard-on was your neighbour in QLD, not mine.

I was in Christchurch nearly a year before the massacre and went to the memorial. What did you do? Sweet F all. When I called him a monster, you tried futilely to link him to me and other conservatives. Whereas your hero Doig was raping children.

Shonky,

"I (SM) was in Christchurch nearly a year before the massacre and went to the memorial." What are you saying you went to the memorial nearly a year before the massacre. Hummmmm, strange.

Pauliar,

You are very convincing at playing the idiot.

Nazi Dom is in it once more. This time it concerns the far right Catholic fundos Opus Dei, and what's been taught in their heavy government funded NSW schools. 'Four Corners' tonight will be an eye opener as to what these crackpots are feeding to children. Nazi Dom was school captain at the Opus Dei run Redfield Collage and a one time active member of this crazy religious sect, as were his parents. BTW, many of the Liberal candidates at the upcoming NSW election are Opus Dei affiliates. Questions need to be asked as to how much taxpayer money has been pumped into Opus Dei schools by the NSW and Federal Morrison governments, a few million I would suspect.

Paul,

Once again you are lying through your teeth what absolute bullsh1t. Did you drop acid or are you simply a liar and a fraud?