"Ha ha ha ha"

Pretty sad you think that's funny..... or relevant.

Also rather lacking in grey matter to think that these are the only options.... fully accept that we're all gunna die or reject all science. You know what? Some of us understand that we can accept the science AND realise that the catastrophists are wrong.

Just to be clear, my policy is to mock those who make egregious idiotic errors due to their pomposity but who refuse to acknowledge or accept their error, or even, as in your case, lie to hide it.

I find it amusing to mock them every now and then to prick the pomposity they exude.

But those who accept and acknowledge their error (565gt anyone?) I respect and leave alone.

"Some of us understand that we can accept the science AND realise that the catastrophists are wrong."

Yeah, you want to have your cake and eat it to. Weasel words.

I accept the science. Climate change is serious.
I think we can beat it. I'm not a 'catastrophist'. Even recalcitrant Tony Abbott and ScoMo have not stopped the market forces at play here - forcing us to become 80% renewable in just 7 years.

But climate change would be truly terrifying if Deniers like yourself were in charge! I'm the one who accepts the science. You are not. So take your silly assertions about your 'science' and shove them where the sun don't shine.

Anyone notice that Max becomes increasingly deranged the more foolish he is made to look?

He thinks he follows the science while actually following the politics. He's shown over and over that he doesn't understand the science.

For 3000 of the last 12000 years temperatures have been higher than the current temperatures. Do 'followers of science' agree with that science. And if its true, what caused it and why suppose that whatever caused those previous higher temps isn't causing the current high temperatures (if indeed they are high)?

But 'followers of science' ignore that type of science because it doesn't suit the politics.

Mhaze,
more weasel words from a weasel. You are only singing HYMN NUMBER ONE from the Denier's hymnal, "The climate's changed before." It's top of the Denier charts - so of course YOU are singing it!

"Climate is always changing. We have had ice ages and warmer periods when alligators were found in Spitzbergen. Ice ages have occurred in a hundred thousand year cycle for the last 700 thousand years, and there have been previous periods that appear to have been warmer than the present despite CO2 levels being lower than they are now. More recently, we have had the medieval warm period and the little ice age. (Richard Lindzen)"

But the short version of the peer-reviewed response to Lindzen - a known contrarian, is:

"Previous climates can be explained by natural causes, while current climate change can only be explained by an excess of CO2 released by human fossil fuel burning. Records of past climates indicate that change happened on time scales of thousands to millions of years. The global rise in temperature that has occurred over the past 150 years is unprecedented and has our fingerprints all over it."
http://skepticalscience.com/climate-change-little-ice-age-medieval-warm-period-intermediate.htm

Max,

So that a no to following the science? Pretty much what I expected!

I wasn't talking about the previous ice ages. I was talking about the Holocene - the past 12000 years.

The science shows that temperatures for a quarter of that time (ie 3000 out of 12000 years) were higher than the present. I'm not surprised you want to ignore that....but you ignoring it is rather my point.

And despite the claims from skepticalsceince and Realclimate and your other go-to gurus, there is no evidence that the recent warming is unprecedented, primarily because the paleo record isn't detailed enough to know what happened in specific 150 yr blocks. Again, that's what the science tells us although the followers-of-science prefer to ignore that.

Mhaze,
your scientific method is flawed.

Science is about evaluating data.

Your 'method' is about evaluating who can just sit there in pig-headed stubbornness and ASSERT over, and over, and over again.

It's as boring and disappointing as discovering New Year's Day vomit on your front doorstep.

Be better.