The article Paul bases his opinions on (really just a regurgitation of other's opinions) is dated March 2022. It hasn't aged well.

The main claim is that Morrison lied when saying that there was a limit to how much government could spend on the things the left likes. Well, of coarse, its not a lie but merely a different opinion. But the left and people like Paul have overwhelming belief in their own beliefs and anyone who disagrees with them is obviously lying. It never occurs that a difference is a difference of opinion. Its the totalitarian impulse that we see so often in the left.

But back to the article. Since it was written, the chickens have come home to roost. Rising inflation. Rising interest rates. Housing crisis. Energy prices so out of control that the government, bereft of ideas and oblivious to historic lessons, institutes price controls. Declining real wages.

All the things that those who supposedly lied, said would be the consequences of profligate spending following the WuFlu hysteria.

What do you call lies that turn out to be true?

Foxy

Politics is a touchy subject for many, including me. Ideally, we would just express our opinions, and let others do the same without telling them they are wrong, and we are right. I've said it before that nobody here (in my time) has ever changed his or her basic beliefs and values because someone else disagrees with them. So why get knotted up and argumentative and - more importantly - lower ourselves to call people things that they are obviously not.

In real life, I find that it is better to support people you agree with rather than calling out people you disagree with, and let things take their course. I've tried it on OLO, but arguing seems to be preferred.

OK. If that's what people want. But calling people Nazis (particularly when you don't know what the word means - Nationalsozialist or National Socialist - is pretty dumb, and embarrassing, if you have the sensitivity to be embarrassed which, I suppose, is not an attribute of name-callers and kiddies. The same applies to calling people 'Commos' when they are no such thing.

In the meantime, we should remember that we live in Australia, a democracy free of any real ogres, just often disappointing politicians who we can be removed, by us, when enough of us feel they should be.

ttbn,

You've put things so well.

Thank you.

Foxy,

One time that person was called a communist he appeared perfectly happy to bear that Epithet. He was also huge mates with Lee Rhiannon who was an avowed communist.

He also defends the to the hilt the CCP and as far as I can remember he has not uttered a condemnation of Putin or his war crimes in Ukraine.

This from the holier-than-thou, ttbn; "The Reds are no longer under the bed: they are in Canberra - in government." Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 17 December 2022 9:29:09 AM ttbn, don't be so sanctimonious, you give as good as you get on this Forum.

Then there is the bloke who linked the Albanese's government to the totalitarian regime of Mugabe in Zimbabwe.

The same poster claims; "The problem is that the village idiot (Paul1405) thinks that Stalin, Putin, and Mao were/are great guys." He left off my all time favourites Pol Pot and Idi Amin, please don't forget Polly and Eaddie, they are my kinda guys.

I likened Dutton's miraculous change of character wanting to be accepted as a reasonable alternate government, to the way Himmler offered himself to the British, claiming he was a reasonable alternative to Hitler, when in fact Himmler was as crazy as Hitler. I never said Dutton is a NAZI, he's not, he is a right-wing conservative, who has a bald head and once wore a uniform, there the similarities with Himmler end.

Emotions appear to run high as far as politics go.
And I guess that's normal.

But I have to confess
I hate labels. Labels end up
conveying something absolute and that's hard to
navigate away from once its decided.

Anyway, I believe in giving people another chance to
redeem themselves - because so many times I've made
mistakes in the way I've understood what they were
saying. That's why I find that if I give labels less
power then perhaps people would afford me that opportunity
too.

Sorry, I don't mean to preach. But it does get to me when
terms such as "a good person," or a "bad person" are used.
As if a "good person" moves through life like a saint."
And a "bad person" only does bad things and always will.

Peeling back layers is crucial - if we want to tear them
down. But now I'm waffling on. I'd better just shut up
and move on.