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After Copenhagen : Comments

By George Mawer, published 6/1/2010

Most people think of the human race as separate from other life on Earth, but thatís a big mistake.

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Perhaps all those believers should start praying to all their interventionist gods.
Posted by snake, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 10:27:34 AM
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The only good thing which could have come out of Copenhagen, is an acknowledgement that the attempted fraud on the civilized world was finished, and the guilty acknowledge that Vaclav Klaus of the Czech Republic is the only honest world leader in relation to climate change.

He asserts it to be a fraud.

Climate change has always been with us, and life would not survive without it. There are effects from it which we perceive to be detrimental, which may simply mean that we are lacking in experience and basic knowledge, in dealing with the effects.

The knowledge is available, and could be ours, if our politicians were not so enmeshed in fraud.

Humanity has always managed. There are many towns now under water which were ports during their lifetime, thousands of years ago, and new ports have been built on the new coastline. The change is gradual and with our advances in technology, is more manageable than ever

The demonization of carbon dioxide certainly demonstrates incredible ignorance, or worse, mendacity, since the scientific knowledge that all life on Earth is carbon based, and the carbon cycle is essential to life, is well established. The benefits of CO2 are downplayed. The Sahara is greening, not just from water technology, but from increased CO2 in the atmosphere.

The hoodwinking of the public, and the buying of the warping of scientific backing, with taxpayers funds, of a fraudulent scheme to make Gore, and the UN, and all their hangers-on rich, at the expense of the public purse, is a scandal.

Just yesterday, our Buffoon for the Environment demonstrated that he does not understand the difference between weather and climate, or global and local temperature. The BOM came out with the statement that the last decade was the second hottest recorded in Australia.

The oaf, Garrett, puts this forward as a justification for a scurrilous and unjustified tax to reduce CO2 emissions. Our emissions are negligible. In a year they comprise less than a millionth part of the atmosphere.
Posted by Leo Lane, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 2:06:23 PM
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New evidence? No.
New opinions? No.

But articles like this are the creaks in the rigging that show the Good Ship Public Hysteria is preparing to change tack:

"We're running low on credibility, Cap'n! We can't hold this course!"

"What says the lookout, Mister Mate?"

"Thar she blows, Cap'n! Tax dollars off the port bow!"

"Hard a-port, Mister Mate! Set sail for Population Control!"

Or Acidifying Oceans, or Running Out of Food, or whatever seems likely to stir up the greatest panic at the time...
Posted by Jon J, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 2:25:58 PM
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I believe the author is guilty of believing "that the human race as separate from other life on Earth" and wishes that the earth will "never again produce a species like us."

Do know of any other species that discusses the potential environmental impact of their activity? Do any other species attempt to conserve any other types of species? Do they even know that they can effect their environment? Perhaps we are the beginning of a "more intelligent species" that the author wishes would evolve once the terrible 'human species' has become extinct.

These anti-humanists really get on my nerve. Why don't you spend some time looking into some positive things we can do to make the earth a better place to live, rather than just hoping for the extinction of our species.
Posted by Stezza, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 5:20:11 PM
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Ok, a bit off track I know, but where are we going to find the wasted millions that paid for the wasted holiday for 100+. The soup alone cost something like $51.00 a serve. God knows what the bill came to.

Do we take money from our failing health fund, or, perhaps the struggling education fund, or, perhaps we scrap some of the planned roads.

What about we raise taxes for the ever decreasing number of contributors.

Luckily, for the governments sake, they are not a business, so, they make these choices, attend the forums, achieve nothing and someone else foots the bill.

Thank you Mr Abbott for not allowing us to get egg on our face in the form of an 'ETS trophy' that Krudd wanted so badly to take with him.
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 8:03:33 PM
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It's not just the money that went into sending Rudd's 114-strong delegation to Copenhagen. Can you imagine the total cost worldwide that governments have poured into this scam? How much food for the hungry that would buy? How much better off society as a whole would be if that effort, and labour, and risk, and production, were not simply thrown down the toilet of governmental self-aggrandisement?

The entire global warming episode is simply an artefact of government funding of science. We are witnessing the planned chaos that comes from a state in which government is getting bigger and bigger. AGW is of a piece with the catastrophic Victorian bushfires, and the GFC, which are caused by government's attempts to control climate, trees, and money, respectively. Now millions aredying of starvation in the poorest countries because of the ignorance, state-worship and credulity of the climate hysterics.

What is truly outrageous is that the benefit to those who dropped everything to fight against this scam, is not getting lumbered with a world bureaucratic government, while those who tried to perpetrate it, already have their reward. They are all there, still receiving government funding, all still ready to move on to their next comfortable indoor- campaign with the same mixture of sanctimony, self-interest and belief in omnipotent government. Even after the whole thing has been proved to have no scientific basis, which is now, the taxes will remain, not just one big tax that you can repeal, but hundreds and hundreds of scammy little pious measures, at all three levels of government, all over the world - laws on what light globe you can have in your own home, how you must put out the garbage, what kind of shower head you can have.

These guys really make my blood boil. They should be recognised for the violent, anti-social pests they are. They belong on the gallows.
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Thursday, 7 January 2010 1:26:15 AM
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