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Obama's Afghan surge is neither right nor wise : Comments

By Marko Beljac, published 14/12/2009

After a long debate President Barack Obama has announced the dispatching of 30,000 extra troops to Afghanistan.

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You are getting close to it, Marko, especially when you mention an underground relationship between Karzai's relatives and the CIA.

Certain what Obama has to do is to contact people like yourself more.

Academics who though regarded as too much left-wing do carefully study specialised books and papers which regard balance of global power as all important.

Furthermore, modern history has generally proven that Immanuel Kant's philosophy of global representation rather than one strong power trying to run the show is all-important.

With one top dog nation like America, as we have said so many times before, there is always the problem of some new sort of neo-colonialism, especially these days when there is such a world shortage of oil.

It is such a pity that Obama now he is in charge, does not regard himself as a typical American, but as a new type of leader who is best in today's circumstances being cautious about US ultra-power philosophy, possibly keeping clear of waving the Stars of Stripes, which only builds up more hatred, especially among Moslems
Posted by bushbred, Monday, 14 December 2009 10:26:01 AM
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Afghanistan is not worth the life of even one more Australian soldier or the expenditure of even one more Australian dollar.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Monday, 14 December 2009 6:07:25 PM
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stevenlmeyer,you spoilt sport.How can the industrial military complex make a quid with no wars? The Taliban stopped all the poppy crops and the Mudjahdeen had no cash to buy Western weapons.Union Oil is Hamid Kazai's old company he used to sub-contract to.How can they get an oil pipeline from Turkmenistan through Afghanistan and Pakistan to the ocean with no wars?

You are robbing the Corporates of real profits by making us feel sorry for a few backward tribal cave dwellers.Obama is the new messiah and we have to follow his example.War is peace.That is how to get the Nobel Peace Prize.
Posted by Arjay, Monday, 14 December 2009 8:01:06 PM
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Arjay,

If Union Oil wants to build a pipeline in Afghanistan let them raise a private army to occupy the place.

--The lives of their people.

--Their dollars.

I see no reason for Australia to help them.

To repeat this time with feeling:

Afghanistan is not worth the life of even one more AUSTRALIAN soldier or the expenditure of even one more AUSTRALIAN dollar.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 6:49:24 AM
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Stevenemyer, that's what the white South Africans said about the negroes, but Mandela saved things in a wonderful opposite way, not making deals but making friends

Cheers, BB, WA
Posted by bushbred, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 10:26:19 AM
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So the real reasons for going there?
We know Iraq was about oil. Regime change and WMDs never were credible reasons for $Billion spends.
We know that 911 was the excuse ("where's Bin Laden?"), even though Pakistan would have been the more sensible choice. Having nukes means US must talk instead of just bomb, so Pakistan is out. (No wonder Iran is rushing for nukes. It is obviously the only way to get respect from military types.)
We also know that the gas pipeline is the obvious economic target, hence the main suspect as the "real" reason.
Could it also be that the CIA is getting into the Heroin trade? We know that they have used cocaine to fund illegal activities in the past, and there is only so much black funding available for global "above the law" activities these days. It is possible that the CIA has a sort of income crisis brought on by the recent revelations. It takes a *lot* of cash to buy up media and legal indifference world-wide, so the global "kidnap and torture" story that had to be killed off would have stretched them somewhat.
Could this be the reason why Heroin production has increased since the US occupation? Can it be that military occupation is just a cover for a some big "commando" cash crops?
The CIA can push this stuff world wide, then get the good coverage by busting some of it (say 5%) entering the US to show how good their policing is.
Whatever is going on, the author is clearly correct that this is military adventure is not for the Afghan people!
Posted by Ozandy, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 11:11:43 AM
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