Geoff Davies,

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Damn you to hell! Now we shall all have to scroll reams of gamboge text ... just to find ... the odd character ... the few words of black script ... http://step-change-in-the-data-input ...lol ... ur rite up their with the inventor of the chainsaw and the dune buggy ...

may u face hyphenation geoff-Davies!

Sum just don't nowe less is more ... but u have to goe an spiol it 4 every 1 .. u have brung about a v ery bad climate change on olo ... http://its-good-if-you-know-how-to-beat-the-system-and-the-word-count-in-gedit-will-not-help-you

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http://could-not-leave-well-alone-and-CO2-to-do-its-photosynthetic-thing-could-you

NOT lol



Just a little divergence - I will decline any kudos, in graphic fashion if necessary.

Listen to the audio of Dr Tim Ball climatologist.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related
This will give you a real insight into the Climategate debacle.

Prof Wegman was asked to arbitrate on the hockey stick fabrication.He found that 42 scientists publish together and keep the peer reviews in house.They control the whole process.The Hadley Centre controls the global data on temps and Geoff Davies and others are trying to downplay its importance.

In 1995 Prof Denning received an email form Jonathon Overpeck of the Hadley Centre," We must get rid of the Medieval Warming period."Overpeck thought that Prof Denning was a manipulator of data like himself.

This group have lowered the data of past temps to enhance their present data.

As Dr Tim Ball observes,he finds no comfort in being right and is sad about the fact that science has being put into disrepute.It is scientific fraud and who will believe them when they actually do have firm data on a real impending catastrophe?

Arjay: "Listen to the audio of Dr Tim Ball climatologist"

Ah yes, Dr Tim Ball. You really know how to pick your sources.

Dr Ball did indeed work for 28 years at the University of Winnipeg. The first 20 of them was a lecturer, and the last 8 were as a Professor of Geography. While he has indeed published several peer reviewed papers, none were in the subject of climatology. When he stated in a newspaper piece was a Professor of Climatology, a real Professor of Climatology published an open letter denying the claim. Ball sued, but withdrew the suite when the University and the newspaper defended it. You can read the defence here: http://j.mp/7KKKdZ

After leaving the University Ball took on the post as scientific advisor to the oil industry-backed organization, Friends of Science. He also took up a post with Frontier Centre for Public Policy (a private think tank funded by corporate donations) and writes articles for Tech Central Station, a web site also partially funded by oil industry.

On joining those organisations Ball started attacking AGW, and as your post show his tireless efforts continue to this very day. He has also argued the hole in Ozone layer was caused by the Sun's activity, not CFC's.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Tim_Ball

I think it is fair to say Dr Ball's primary concern when making a statement about science is not whether it is true or not, but rather how much he will be paid for making it.

Having just sat through a 7 (not in order)of a series of 23 University lectures on the known global warming science it is clear to me that most deniers/sceptics simple don't understand what's being spoken about.
e.g. outputs:
- Volcanoes put out on average: .1 giga tonne of CO2 per year
- Industry : 7.0 G/T p.a.
- Deforestation : 2.0 G/T p.a.

Natural absorption
- Trees : 2.5 G/T p.a.
- Seas : 2.5 G/T p.a.

It is clear we're producing more CO2 than is naturally absorbed.

From Ice cores science is able to determine the CO2 levels in the air in history, specifically they have determined that these levels were relatively constant for a period of 1000 years untill the 1700s at about 280 parts per million. Today its almost 350 ppm.

The science to this point is incontestable except around the irrelevant, extreme edges.

From there the chemistry and mechanism of natural uptake is also well known and largely undisputed.

This happen in three stages
-Ocean Invasion (sea absorption): 75% of airborne CO2 will be absorbed in about 1000 years .
- next the Calcium Carbonate cycle: will absorb another 15% over 2-10000 years.
- The final stage "the weathering thermostat" will take 500000 years to absorb the last 10% i.e. to 1700 levels.

Also known is what is called is the band saturation effect which means that the temperature will not decrease at the same rate as the CO2.
There will be a large blimp before the long tail.

As I understand it not much of the above is in dispute at all.
What is less sure is the rate of change. What generally accepted is that the IPCC report was on the low side of change. However recent results have suggested a faster rate.

Given the *known science* as outlined above coupled with multiple sources for raw data, the tinkering by EAU CRU is a blip in an otherwise unequivocal scientific conclusion.

Dr Geoff Davies, Who is Inigo Owen Jones ?

rstuart. Tim Ball specialised in climatology.Again we see the adhominen vultures trying to discredit people of real integrity.They want to discredit Tim Ball because he does not fit into the Global view of climate that many PC police want us all to percieve.Of couse there will be lies printed about Dr Ball because he does not fit into the mainstream view of the Corporates,Greens or the UN in their views on CO2.

Al Gore is the biggest con man ever to traverse the planet.It is all about carbon derivatives being traded on the share market and enlaving the world in taxes to support the UN's objective and the corporates,of a New World Order.Just google NWO.Even Jannet Albrechtsen and Lord Monkton smell a big rat and they are from the right.