Houellebecq:"You really have issues with sex"

Isn't that the single most glaringly common denominator that unites the Old Grrrls Network? Where are all the old dears, anyway - this topic is tailor-made for lip-pursing and head-shaking, not to mention tut-tutting. I'd have thought the Dreary Dowagers would be all over it like an outbreak of herpes.

Houellebecq:"times when the consent age are lower due to a different society with different life expectancies"

And that's the crux of it, isn't it? Let's not kid ourselves that those times are in the past, either. Antibiotic resistance, along with crap lifestyle and what are going to become very crowded conditions are all going to conspire to produce greatly reduced life expectancies in our descendants compared to ourselves. Epidemic disease will become a serious threat again in the crowded cities, while the value our society places on individual life is likely to become reducsed, simply because there are more of us.

The most significant factor in changing the role of women in our society has been the improvement in health care, including contraception and in obstetrics, meaning that they are able to delay having children until almost menopausal and that their menfolk will accept that as reasonable, given that they are both likely to live well into their 80s.

In other words, it is an artefact of a time of abundance that is rapidly approaching its end. contraception will still be with us, but the drive to use it is likely to wane when people have good reason to fear dying young.

Likewise, the sense that childhood should be extended to young adulthood is likely to be abandoned, for the same reasons.

Our country's population is predicted to reach close to 100,000,000 people before it starts to fall...

Houellebecq <"Get off it suze if a 14 year old marries a 12 year old it's hardly paedo. When there's grass on the wicket, it's time to play cricket!"

Just the sort of disgusting comment I would expect you to say.
And you know that, in ancient Aboriginal society at least, it was older men taking young girls as wives.

Sounds like you think that is all good fun?
We all know this practice continues today as well, and it is called pedophilia, and yes it is undeniably mainly men as perpetrators.

That fact is hard for you to deal with isn't it?
Once you enter the conversation anticeptic, I am out of it!

suzeonline:"Once you enter the conversation anticeptic, I am out of it!"

"and another one gone
another one gone
another one bites the dust"

Probably not altogether appropriate - Freddie Mercury liked sex quite a lot, apparently...

'septic, as one of the dreadful 'grrrls' you and your anti-maternity mates speak of, you will understand that I have changed my mind and decided to answer you.

I believe the topic is the sexualisation of youth?
Why then are you focused on what you think you know about my sex life?
Whatever rocks your boat I suppose.

The use of the words from a great Freddie Mercury song, and comments about his sex life, is in very poor taste indeed, given that his demise was caused by a sexually transmitted disease.

A new low, even for you 'septic.

Suzeonline:"as one of the dreadful 'grrrls'"

Oh suzie, you're not dreadful, dear, just dreary. Your obvious dislike of anything to do with sex is just one of the manifestations of that dull wowserism you embrace.

Some of the other grrrls really are dreadful, as well as dreary, dull and dim-witted. Wowserism is a natural for you and them - it is a response to the sense that one is missing out on all the fun that everyone else is having and naturally the Old Grrls Network is full of women who have spent their entire lives resenting others' enjoyment.

suzeonline:"I believe the topic is the sexualisation of youth?"

Yes, indeed it is, well spotted. As I said earlier, the current Wowserism inspired by Feminism has a pretty short life expectancy. It's only the fact that we have had a massively subsidised economy based on cheap fossil-fuel energy that allows it to exist. Once that energy is no longer available then pragmatism will return. That means that both young people and women are going to find themselves far less cossetted by a society that can't afford the time or money to do so. Moreover, as antibiotics continue to lose effectiveness childhood mortality is going to increase dramatically, leading to a drive for women to have more children at an earlier age.

As life expectancy declines, the age at which people start having children also gets lower. The reason that young girls got married in the Middle Ages was simply because there was a fair chance that they'd have enough children before dying that at least one would make it to adulthood.

No amount of entitlement-based ideology is going to change all of that, so you and the rest of the Dreary Dowagers had best enjoy your time in the sun while it lasts...

Here's a bit more Freddie for you, since you seem to be a fan:

"Drop of a hat she's as willing
As playful as a pussycat"

What s shame no one's ever likely to say that about one of the twisted Sisterhood.

Go Antiseptic. Suzie, paedophilia refers to a psychiatric condition in which a guy cannot get off unless with a sexually immature child. It does not refer to ordinary human behaviour in virtually all cultures and all times of consensual sexual activity at the onset of physical sexual maturity. Yes you think sex is disgusting and hateful, so much is obvious. But that doesn't mean ordinary human sexual behaviour is sick - it means you are.