The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > Article Comments > Driven by indignation at injustice > Comments

Driven by indignation at injustice : Comments

By Julia Gillard, published 5/10/2009

Collective responsibility and democratic action are necessary to ensure people can develop themselves and excel.

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. ...
  6. 12
  7. 13
  8. 14
  9. Page 15
  10. 16
  11. 17
  12. 18
  13. All
A question, posted by Squeers, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 7:50:49 PM:

"Is it credible that Julia Gillard, ......... , does not have a twitching human nerve-centre plugged into this thread?"

Squeers, I know I have already posted once (or twice?) in this thread, but I am pleased you have realized we have a real-life drama going on on OLO in the midst of all the banality. Truly, I pity the poor ministerial minder charged with the monitoring of this thread, continuing as it is at this late stage, but I suspect one such brought this literary deluge upon their own heads. "Apres moi ...." and all that.

I do wish those engaging in such slugfestery as has been going on with Col (see: http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2479#56290 ) would refer to him correctly.

As I drafted this post I noticed that it is my 303rd for the year. Strangely seemingly appropriate, bringing to mind Edward Woodward as Breaker Morant in the film of the same name. "We caught them, and we shot them, under Rule 303". As a consequence of the disgraceful scapegoating by the then British government that led to Morant's execution during the Boer War, the death penalty for any military offence by any Australian serviceman has been outlawed ever since.

They're at it again Julia, with two of their own, in the Howes' case. What are you going to do about this injustice? Are you as driven by indignation at injustice as you claim?

All the Howes' want is a hearing. They are clearly not going to get one in the US.

All you have to do is request their extradition to Australia. We should have as much evidence as do the US authorities, for a crime alleged to have been abetted by them in Australia, shouldn't we? The Howes' have asked for this. Why not do it? Why not show your government is different from the previous one that did virtually the same thing to an Australian who had never even been to the US?

Payback time!
Posted by Forrest Gumpp, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 9:20:34 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
RobP “Your one-sided application of libertarianism has got knobs on it, Col. Wake up and smell the roses. So, what would you do if one of your clients was about to get squashed between a rock and a hard place? Throw them to the wolves?”

My “one-sided application of libertarianism" would not have allowed "wholesale markets" purchasing power to be so concentrated as Hawke and Keating and the rest of the swill humping socialists gave their blessing to.

Simple you can track the problem you identify that back to Hawke/Keating and the socialist swill in government at the time, who allowed the Coles/Myers and the Woolworth/Safeway mergers to proceed, when they have the authority to stop them.

These two mergers resulted in the concentration of wholesale purchasing power into a too small a number of groups, rather than a natural market where the numbers of buyers and sellers are so many as no single entity can control a price.

And I never supported the Button plan (re Senator Button, Socialist) to fund the multinational concentration of car assembly production into fewer economic groups in Australia.. which, at the time, resulted in the immediate closure of Nissan production at Clayton Vic.

Better socialists stop pretending they know best when they clearly do not and leave business to those who understand it…. Stop pretending that by favourable grants, tax rules and anti-competition legislation you can make any “Green” industry, which lacks commercial rigor, “viable”.

That is why I support the spirit of ACCC. Because it helps redress the imbalance of a few producers/wholesalers with power to control prices for millions of individual consumers.

It is also why I resist public ownership of anything. Because, when the state owns the means of production or service it is invariably in a monopoly position and poor performance ends up hidden behind monopoly pricing, to the detriment of all.
In short, if you want a “fair” system: the owner cannot also be the regulator.

(Although I would accept “Water”, by its very nature, is an exception to all other manufactured/growing/produced goods and services)
Posted by Col Rouge, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 9:53:21 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
as due diligance..is the rule of the servant...and seervice to servant is service to master ...i hereby establish joinder of this to that

this being this legally lawfull and proper..in time notice to master..via the servant...enjoin this poist to all previopus posts..that due diligence would have revcieved notarisation of reportage on...together as if one...completly full notice...delivered by public proclamation

i know kev has been checking the stuff pased on to him...and advise him ti lighten up..to wit toi ask john howhasrd of a specific letter delivered to john and 35 embassies in and arround canbera

ask that he request the footage off the security cameras at old parliment house in 2002..on good friday..they will know of which i speak

further joining this to that i include as one..my wriutings at worldfreeman sopciety...at the id link...as well as the words noticed on other sites such as wikipedia/morganaforumco...and the celistine prophecy web site..under the same intra-alia...but other non de plumes as well

julie it is written that woman/children will lead us...but mate why??..realize...its the patriarchal way...remove from the patriarchs...the power...and all of sa sudden al their collusions of power expire..this is as it was then womans business

rread my court transcripts/police intervieuws...julie...for gods childrens sake...mate we been decieved...the witness is in my postings

i know it looks difficult...but mate..you girls do figure it all out in the end...have you met the first ladies

well do it now
this time let kev run his show
you need to go do girly things

god is within..all of us..god is with-in-you
god is living loving light sustaining life..

you are allready a light amoung men
but the spirit...needs fruits..govt NEEDS be like the loving mother..not the disaplinarian father...we dont need blame..but do need imediate remedy...

let the servant serve...and yet...in private..be his own master
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 10:06:29 AM
Find out more about this user Visit this user's webpage Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
>>All you have to do is request their extradition to Australia. We should have as much evidence as do the US authorities, for a crime alleged to have been abetted by them in Australia, shouldn't we? The Howes' have asked for this. Why not do it? Why not show your government is different from the previous one that did virtually the same thing to an Australian who had never even been to the US?<<

Two things, Forrest.

1. You seem to be implying that Gillard is not the real deal. From what I've seen so far I'd have to concur. As they say, you judge people by what they do rather than what they say. So far, what has she done? In Parliament she comes across like a perfumed version of Peter Costello. And we all know he took the safe, low road in his political career. When someone is trying to contemporaneously create political epithets about themselves, you know they're not really interested in serving anyone else - their priorities are elsewhere.
2. Why would anyone do anything on your say-so? All people do when faced with a deluge of literary indulgence, is to even more quickly ignore them. Why bother? Why wreck it by saying anything at all?

>>I do wish those engaging in such slugfestery as has been going on with Col would refer to him correctly.<<

Don't hide behind your bushel. How would you refer to him?

Prince Valium? As in Mogadon? Ta.

Col,

I agree there are excesses on the socialist side of the fence that affect those who can and want to achieve things. However, do you accept that there are unscrupulous types in industry that are every bit as bad and excessive as your traditional enemies? If, yes, then you must be advocating a form of regulation that does something about this. Multiple problems build up over time. People that are VERY good in business create a tiered society where there are distinct winners and losers. Great if you're one if the winners, terrible otherwise. How would you propose to solve this problem?
Posted by RobP, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 10:13:53 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Ye Gods, I must be feverish. I find myself actually agreeing with (most of) one of Col Rouge's posts.
Hawke/Keating somehow tried to marry socialism with neo liberalism, and ended up with runaway corporatism; to the benefit of no one but their mega rich buddies.
Posted by Grim, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 5:03:43 PM
Find out more about this user Visit this user's webpage Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Forrest Gump,
allow me to express my admiration. Your handle is apt: the resident savant of OLO! And I'm in awe at your prolific output!
Indeed, when I read that first post in this thread, and followed the trail to the censored epistle, and read the narrative and the verse within which it was couched, I felt confronted by my own mediocrity, and bethought me the matter. That you were capable of such wizardry, not only of composition, but of transposition, moving omnisciently among diverse threads, at liberty to supplement them as you would; to appear, ad hoc, unbidden, amid the annals of the wise--just like the "real" Forrest!
I confess I supposed that not only did Gillard (obviously) have a minion cock a tin ear to the proceedings, but that this Forrest Gump was a resident troll! A stooge of OLO, held enthral for years, like the Hunchback of Notre Dame, slave to the belles lettres of the forum, gifted with the ability to retain and mimic selectively the maddening cacophony of the wise. All the while his/her verbiage being, though cannily crafted, the unthinking transcription of a mindless scribe, a dolt taught to paraphrase parrot-fashion! The alternative was unthinkable ... !
In short, I thought you were an OLO insider, a puppet master; thus OLO was manipulated from within and without!
I suspect, in the end, I was mistaken, misled by vanity, thrall--though why else would such a silver tongue while away his hours crafting supererogatory prose and prosody, gratis--for the sheer hell of it! Unless to torment me, to toy with my pretentions--to gloat! Even imposing such strictures as perfect economy--not a word wasted or wanted!

I agree with the substance of your "carnival" (prick your ears, Julia's minion), the Howes should be extradited to Australia, for "justice". Have we learnt nothing from the David Hicks virtual lynching!

I'm still some words short! And as disconsolate and discombobulate as Antonio Salierie! 'Tis too much to bare! ...How long must I go on in this stupid manner, filling the quota of a man maddened by the madding crowd.
Posted by Squeers, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 7:24:50 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. ...
  6. 12
  7. 13
  8. 14
  9. Page 15
  10. 16
  11. 17
  12. 18
  13. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy