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A call for citizen climate action : Comments

By Mark Diesendorf, published 18/9/2009

Community groups pushing for climate action are a bunch of bright flowers in the desert of government inaction and spin.

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Climate Change Agenda:..It’s All About..Eugenics and Depopulation

Editor’s note:..An Infowars reader sent the following collection of links to news stories..how the corporate media in collusion with the elite..are pushing world depopulation and one-child policies..under the cover of the hyped-up..junk science theory..of climate change.

09/10/2009 Population control the solution to climate change – Environmental Data Interactive Exchange http://www.edie.net/news/news_story.asp?id=16959

09/14/2009 Study Finds Family Planning Cheapest Way to Prevent Climate Change – Environmental News Network http://www.enn.com/lifestyle/article/40476

09/15/2009 When It Comes to Pollution, Less (Kids) May Be More – Washington Post http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/14/AR2009091403308.html

09/17/2009 Better world: Get real – New Scientist http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327261.200-better-world-get-real.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news (Watch This One, it’s in multiple parts!)

09/17/2009 Condoms Against Climate Change – Salon http://www.salon.com/tech/htww/2009/09/17/condoms_against_climate_change/index.html?source=rss&aim=/tech/htww

09/18/2009 Huge population boom a massive challenge: Swan – ABC News http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/09/18/2689697.htm

09/18/2009 Contraception vital in climate change fight –expert – Reuters http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LH537693.htm

09/18/2009 Birth control could help combat climate change – AP http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090918/ap_on_he_me/eu_med_condoms_climate_change

The source of these feeds is The “Optimum Population Trust” A supposed environmental foundation.

Here is their homepage… http://www.optimumpopulation.org/

The Report in question Is (Optimum Population trust – Contraception is Greenest Technology.pdf)

Also, I have attached some of their other rags as they will probably be removed or firewalled once they are exposed.

Read some of their reports, as they are repulsive atrocities…

CONTRACEPTION IS “GREENEST” TECHNOLOGY http://www.optimumpopulation.org/reducingemissions.pdf

GAIA SCIENTIST TO BE OPT PATRON

http://www.optimumpopulation.org/submissions/climatechange09.pdf

TACKLE POPULATION GROWTH TO BEAT CLIMATE CHANGE – OPT

http://www.optimumpopulation.org/submissions/climatechange09.pdf

PUBLIC SUPPORTS SMALL FAMILIES, SMALLER POPULATIONS, POLL SHOWS

http://www.optimumpopulation.org/submissions/YouGov11Jul09.xls

ATTENBOROUGH IS NEW OPT PATRON

http://www.optimumpopulation.org/releases/opt.release13Apr09.htm

SEX IS MAIN CAUSE OF POPULATION GROWTH

http://www.optimumpopulation.org/releases/opt.release26Mar09.htm

EARTH HEADING FOR 5 BILLION OVERPOPULATION?

http://www.optimumpopulation.org/releases/opt.release16Mar09.htm

SMALL FAMILIES PRODUCE BIG GREEN GAINS – OPT STUDY

http://www.optimumpopulation.org/releases/opt.release16Feb09.htm

THINK-TANK URGES POPULATION INQUIRY BY GOVERNMENT

http://www.optimumpopulation.org/releases/opt.release05Jan09.htm

POPULATION GROWTH THREATENS UK’S FUTURE

http://www.optimumpopulation.org/releases/opt.release21Aug08.htm

REPORT CHALLENGES “RIGHT” TO HAVE CHILDREN

http://www.optimumpopulation.org/righttoprocreate.briefing.pdf

http://www.optimumpopulation.org/righttoprocreate.extracts.pdf

Archive of Reports:

http://www.optimumpopulation.org/opt.media.archive.html
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 19 September 2009 10:51:33 AM
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Yes a collection of wild ideas..
RStuart - I regret that you misunderstood my post. The Federal Government has set a target that is far in excess of anything that can safely be put on the grid at the moment. The 5 per cent renewables figure you quote in fact includes hydo (about 3 per cent) which is high-value stuff. If they could do 20 per cent hydro there is no problem. But as it is the bulk of the remaining 17 per cent of the renwable target must come from wind - an intermittant source. (PV and solar ect will contribute but not so much.) And that is horrifying. They are trying to make this work now by somehow integrating wind forecasting and grid management but making it work properly is far more complicated than anything thought at the time. They still haven't made it cost effective in Denmark - the only country where wind penetration is that high - and the emissions saved have been slight. Can they make it work here, given we can't simply export the electricity for nothing as Denmark does? Will there be, in fact, any real reduction in emissions? Looks like we're going to find out, and pay for the privilege.
Posted by curmudgeonathome, Saturday, 19 September 2009 11:22:00 AM
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One of the reasons I love OLO is these articles. They are gold.

95 percent of the pro climate change articles are posited on the fact that the earth is finite and a closed system. Resources are finite but the earth is an open system. According to the climate changers we're all rooned sooner or later because (a) too many people (b) the earth is a finite system (c) capitalism is killing us.

So according to them, any counter argument against climate change is facile because we're lemmings heading towards the cliff. The climate changers are asking us to simply to slow down before the cliff approaches.

I have no problems with cutting carbon emissions, as that's simply following a precautionary principle. I have major problems with the anti-democratic undertones of many climate change articles. This one included.
Posted by Cheryl, Sunday, 20 September 2009 8:53:44 AM
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Hi All,

Just a quick thought regarding climate action.

We as an increasing population are using our most valuable land to build upon. Add to that we are looking at alternative methods to reduce environmental and health pollution and hazards.
What has not been given sufficient thought is the use of all of the roofing on these buildings.
Perhaps the government might give more thought as to the viability of installing solar energy panels as a total of the electricity we need for industry. There are hectares and hectares of available space we can utilise.
Add to that the water runoff from all of these buildings would no doubt contribute a major bounty to reduce the demand on potable water.
We are not using our resources effectively or efficiently.
Taxes would be better used to collect and distribute electricity where it is used.
This is just a thought. It came to me as a thought but I would agree that it would need further research, costing and final analysis. The main thing is that out of thoughts develop solutions:)
Regards
professori-au
Posted by professor-au, Sunday, 20 September 2009 7:48:39 PM
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Here we go encouraging people to run campaigns, get busy,
spend lots and lots of money via our governments etc etc etc.

All because everyone believes in the projections of a computer
program whose source code is not available.

Really, if we have it totally wrong, there will be a lot of embarrassed
politicians, scientists etc etc.
I wouldn't want to be in their shoes if the public comes baying.

In any case fossil fuel use is already starting down on its never
ending voyage to the land of zero.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 21 September 2009 5:03:04 PM
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For those wishing to reduce their global warming footprint there is a simple two word slogan that will achieve wonders.

DON'T SPEND

Everything that you buy generated some carbon dioxide when it was made. Make do and mend. Before starting your car think : "Is my journey REALLY necessary".

If everyone does this we will have a first class depression, in which immigration will be stopped, and the output of warming gases greatly reduced.

Pity about the unemployed.
Posted by plerdsus, Monday, 21 September 2009 9:29:22 PM
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