I think then rehctub we are at an impasse and will have to agree to disagree.

We have discussed the ways of removing incompetent employees before so I won't go over old ground.

No system will ever be perfectly fair - it is just not possible but some systems will be more fair than others and it is weighing up the benefits/costs to the whole economic system that determines what we end up with. Sometimes this changes depending on ideology but even then (in Australia) the two opposites are never really that far apart.

Loyalty is a 2 way street, rehctub. I wonder how keen your apprentices will be to stay with you, after seeing at first hand your views on loyalty.

I think then rehctub we are at an impasse and will have to agree to disagree.

Yes I agree, but you can be assured that if it turns out that I am wrong, and I hope I am, then I will be the first to admit it.

Grim
Sorry, but you've lost me. What makes you think I am not loyal to my staff?

My apprentices are over the top as I have done exactly what I promised I would do, that is pay them what they are worth.

Do you realise that by putting my boys up to level 3, actually costs me an additional $300+ per week, from my pocket! That's almost 8 grand!

Most apprentices have to work a full 2 years before advancing and even then some employers play games with them, using book work as an excuse.