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The rise of European fascism? : Comments

By Zilka Grogan, published 26/6/2009

The party that claims to speak for the 'indigenous' British population recently won two seats in the European Parliament.

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Leigh, by the same logic, no poll is accurate about anything, nobody can know people's attitudes about anything, and everything is only a point of view.

Welcome to the world of post-modernism. Usually the province of hardcore lefties, it's quite happily embraced by the Right when it suits their ends.

Believe it or not, pollsters try to take these things into account. Of course, not all are accurate, but they're not completely useless either. You can accuse governments of being distracted and naive, but pretty ruthless corporates make use of polls too.

Cynicism at its extreme becomes naivete again, Leigh.
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Monday, 29 June 2009 10:29:40 PM
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Glorfindel - I have to admit that is a very funny joke!

Nice one :)
Posted by CJ Morgan, Monday, 29 June 2009 11:19:59 PM
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It is quite clear from the posts of the "thoughtful, caring and tolerant people" that they are more interested in in winning arguments than pondering on the truth - or at least thinking that they might be wrong.

I know how hard it is for them; I was brought up in a Left wing household and had the usual doctrination that they have had. It wasn't until I matured and started to think for myself that I found out that conservatism and thinking for myself was the only way to go.

There are none so blind as those that won't see.
Posted by Leigh, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 11:30:54 AM
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Back atcha Leigh.

It is quite clear from the posts of the "conservatives from socialist households" that they are more interested in in winning arguments than pondering on the truth - or at least thinking that they might be wrong.

I know how hard it is for them; I was brought up in a true blue Tory household and had the usual indoctrination into fear-and-loathing that they have had. It wasn't until I matured and started to think for myself that I found out that compassion and tolerance was the only way to go.

There are none so blind as those who will not see.
Posted by Pericles, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 4:39:27 PM
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“There is a LESS-THAN-ZERO chance that I will ever be required to find out what life is like "under Islam".
LOL
Gee, faith like that must surely be heaven sent.
Posted by Horus, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 6:53:19 AM
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Perhaps.

But, writing in the Guardian two days ago, Denis MacEoin is less sanguine.

See: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2009/jun/29/religion-islam-sharia-britain

Muslim Council of Britain's spin doctor in chief, Inayat Bunglawala, accuses MacEoin and others of "demonising" sharia courts. He does not, however, deny the growing influence of sharia courts.

At the moment it is hard to see how this will play out. Strictly speaking the so called "sharia courts" in Britain act as arbitrators. In theory no one can be compelled to agree to have a dispute arbitrated by a sharia court.

In practice it may be hard for a vulnerable member of the community to refuse to submit to the judgement of a sharia court. As the proportion of Muslims in Britain grows sharia courts could be mainstreamed.

Trouble is, if sharia courts, and Jewish courts, why not Catholic courts? Or Christian courts? Where does this process end?

I am no fan of the judicial system either here or in the UK. What I think of the judiciary could not be published on a website accessible by the faint hearted. But I am uneasy about the rise of what are in effect parallel legal systems that make important decisions about people's lives.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 8:50:58 AM
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