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Masculinity, sport and alcohol : Comments

By Merete Schmidt, published 15/6/2009

A study in a rural town found that young men and women who rejected either alcohol, football or both became socially isolated.

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SJF: You're not sure what motivates Antiseptic? Look back through *all* his posts on this forum and others. He objects to feminism being an employable industry (as opposed to self-funded lobby) above and beyond equality as recognised and long established by the courts, minister for same etc. He objects to such an "industry" (including actively involved and therefore open to criticism government agencies) being above question, above discussion and above correction, short of prohibitively expensive court proceedings. When he supports women and selected feminist issues it is because these are holdouts, where female equality, or a reasonable opportunity for the able, is not established. Where he overtly commends women or feminist groups it is because thay have met applicable standards of productivity or dedication without asking for government or social recognition (Money$). It is not enough to seek positions of high pay or power. If you are not equally willing to seek a mining or other socially isolating job as (for example) a senior management position of same pay, then you are not *really* seeking equality at that pay scale (the oft mentioned criterion), are you?. In other words, he supports equality, not privelege and political power.

He is not alone. Many who share his views only speak at the ballot box, hence your confusion. Have you ever wondered why a population that is 52% female supports "male dominated" parliaments? When swings of less than 1% dominate policy? Think about this for not less than one full week. I will assume that a reply in less than such time frame is a knee-jerk and not the product of anybody with greater than primary education (merely graduate womens studies, hence ignorant). If you have friends in the Child Support Agency, ask if they are aware of the Ombudsmans report 2007-08. Have they applied the result in all other similar cases? Brought trhem to a supervisor's attention? Surely honeesty requires them to do so?

Rustopher.
Posted by Rusty Catheter, Sunday, 21 June 2009 9:53:08 PM
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This article manufactures spin to justify the behaviour of football groupies. Too many reasonable people audibly questioned these young women’s roles in recently publicised incidents, so the feminist machine got busy to fabricate suitably counterintuitive pseudo-scientific psycho babble.
Posted by Seeker, Monday, 22 June 2009 1:27:46 AM
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Rusty very well said.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Monday, 22 June 2009 7:07:43 AM
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R0bert

‘Rusty very well said./R0bert’

Are you for real??

Unless you had tongue firmly planted in cheek when writing that, then I’m afraid you’ve really screwed your credibility in my eyes … big time. It’s rare for someone to out-arrogance Antiseptic, but old Rusty definitely gets the guernsey. Just what is it about anti-feminism and condescension that makes them so compatible?

Rusty Catheter

‘In other words, [Antiseptic] supports equality, not privelege and political power.’

Well, let’s have this debate if or when women ever even get within coo-ee of attaining 'equality', let alone ‘privilege and power'. At the current rate of progress, don’t hold your breath.

‘Have you ever wondered why a population that is 52% female supports "male dominated" parliaments?’

Ah …. Compared to what?? Male-dominated parliaments are all women have got to choose from, so that’s all they’ve got to vote FOR. Same reason women mainly go to see movies made by men – because men make 95% of films.

And, while we’re at it … have YOU ever wondered why any self-respecting feminist is not the slightest bit interested in pandering to people like yourself who choose to view feminists as greedy freeloaders and speak to them like they are foolish children in need of correction?

‘[Antiseptic] objects to feminism being an employable industry (as opposed to self-funded lobby) …’

ANY field of activity is employable and, if you ever bothered to look into it, much feminist activity IS self-funded. The ‘feminist industry’ is a capricious put-down term that has no basis in reality – other than the trope you’ve probably read on Angry Harry … oh, and Angry Antsy’s prolific postings.

‘Think about this for not less than one full week.’

… And do I have to sit up straight and put my hands on my head as well? What I would prefer to think about – for maybe 30 seconds or so – is this: What weird kind of worldview would inspire someone to adopt a pseudonym as grotesque as ‘rusty catheter’?
Posted by SJF, Monday, 22 June 2009 11:40:27 AM
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SJF
There is an area where feminist have achieved equality, which is in universities.

The majority of students are female and you won’t get a job in a university unless you are negative towards males. However, almost 50% of female university graduates do not repay their HECS fees, now creating a $14 Billion HECS debt.

Maths and science is being gradually pushed out of universities and being replaced by social science, which has no credibility at all, and the acceptance of social science into universities means that other courses also have no reliability and credibility.

Universities purchase almost nothing from Australian companies, and import the lot. They also train students to use imported products only. This does nothing for Australian industry, and although universities absorb huge amounts of taxpayer funding, they return almost nothing back except public debt.

Although a major employer of feminists, Australian universities produce almost nothing of reliability, and now rely upon foreign students to prop them up economically (ie they don’t return wealth back into society, but absorb wealth from elsewhere)
Posted by vanna, Monday, 22 June 2009 2:28:46 PM
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SJF: “Well, let’s have this debate if or when women ever even get within coo-ee of attaining 'equality', let alone ‘privilege and power'. At the current rate of progress, don’t hold your breath.”

If SJF confuses equality of opportunity with equality of outcome, what hope for all other freeloaders?
Posted by Seeker, Monday, 22 June 2009 9:52:10 PM
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