On the contrary, Cornflower. I have no problems at all with homosexuality - but I do know some terribly misogynist gay men.

Both vannakins and Antiwomen seem to be particularly miserable as blokey blokes, so I thought it might be best for all of us if they came out, should they happen to be covertly gay.

Absolutely no offence intended to the undoubtedly vast majority of gay men who don't hate women.

C. J Morgan
"Connell's theoretical position" is very much the point in question, as that theoretical position is extremly sexist, bigoted and discriminatory.

It could be anything, from country towns to cities, academic research involving gender nearly always starts from that "theoretical position".

Of course what has not been mentioned by the author is that youg women will often go to football matches to look at men's bums, flert and to try to attract a male, because at a football match there is often quite a selection of males to choose from.

Everyone knows this is the case, but not mentioned by the sexist, bigoted and discriminatory author.

C J Morgan, "Both vannakins and Antiwomen seem to be particularly miserable as blokey blokes, so I thought it might be best for all of us if they came out, should they happen to be covertly gay."

Those silly words compound your original error, evidencing your lack of sensitivity and adding insult to injury for male homosexuals.

No matter how you try to muddy the waters, your offence to male honosexuals and your underlying prejudice is crystal clear to others. Similarly you would be displaying prejudice to women if you used one of the disgusting sexual slurs to describe your opponent.

Your unreasoning hatred of men and hubris lead you to make such telling slips. It is cowardly of you not to apologise to male homosexuals for your disgraceful insult.

Such 'off' comments really make others wonder if you really empathise with the goals of the women's movement or homosexuals' rights or if are simply bandwagoning, seeking opportunities to strike back at the men in your life who have rejected you. That would explain why you prefer gay insults to sledge men as a group. Gays are men too.

Cornflower's absolutely correct. I apologise unreservedly to all gay men for suggesting that a pair of misogynist idiots might be homosexual.

Back in the real world, I wonder why Cornflower (who, as I recall, claims to be a woman) so passionately defends a couple of this forum's most prolific woman-haters. On the basis of her posting history, one really wonders if she really empathises with the goals of the whining men's movement or homosexuals' rights or is simply bandwagoning, seeking opportunities to strike back at the women in her life who have rejected her.

For the record, I have numerous male friends with whom I engage in all kinds of blokey activities. However, neither they nor I would give the time of day to tossers of vannakins or Antiwomen's ilk.

CJMorgan:"I have numerous... friends "

Suuure you do, little fella.

Here's a clue: those people behind the checkout counters at Woolies aren't "friends". Hope that helps...

CJ

Cornflower claims to be a woman?

GET OUT!