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Masculinity, sport and alcohol : Comments

By Merete Schmidt, published 15/6/2009

A study in a rural town found that young men and women who rejected either alcohol, football or both became socially isolated.

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Fractelle, "Watch the impotent hegemony of A-septic, C-Flower, Vanna/HRS twist any comments made by CJ Morgan into an unrecognisable version of their original intent."

That is a lie, C J Morgan's contemptuous insult directed at gays is quoted word for word and he has refused to withdraw it. Do you really believe that the end justifies the means? You would strenuously object and so you should if C J Morgan used similar disgusting epithets for women to sledge his opponents.
Posted by Cornflower, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 4:26:32 AM
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Thanks SJF and Fractelle.

I think it's pretty obvious that this just another misogynist hate-fest from the the male losers and their allegedly female cheerleader.

Speaking of whom - Cornflower, you didn't quote me "word for word" at all. Rather, you pounced on a throwaway line at the end of my post, twisted it in order to try and score some points, and have subsequently avoided any discussion of the actual article.

As I've said previously, you are the "liar" here. Anybody who is even slightly familiar with my posting history here knows that I strongly support gay rights and frequently argue against the homophobes.

Mind you, it's kind of pleasing to know that I annoy you enough for you to bother.

For a real laugh, check out Antiwomen's new thread in the General section, where he claims that the NRL ses scandals are all a feminist plot to take over football.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 6:49:57 AM
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Well said, Rusty. Of course, poor old SJF is going to need urgent counselling after you bullied her with all those questions...

You expressed my position very well, though. The Feminist doctrinaire position is not about equality, it's about achieving dominance and "jobs for the grrls" and putting the "boys" in their proper place: digging ditches.

Equality was achieved some time ago and all of the Feminist cant since has been about dishonestly pretending otherwise in order to continue to claim victimhood and the special consideration given to victims. No wonder they get upset when they're asked questions.

SJF:"Male-dominated parliaments are all women have got to choose from"

Are women not involved in political parties? Certainly my experience of Labor politics is that it is dominated at branch level by women, while the Union movement is controlled by and for women predominantly. Ask yourself why women aren't pre-selected, despite massive "affirmative action" targets and female-dominated branches and why, when they are pre-selected, many are rejected by voters. Oh, sorry, there I go asking questions again.

SJF:"much feminist activity IS self-funded."

Like the NSW Rape Crisis Centre? How about the CSA? What about the Qld Women's Legal aid Service? The Office for the Status of Women? The Sex Discrimination Commissioner? What about the Union movement? Academic institutions, especially "gender studies" and sociology departments?

There are many women, yourself among them, who are paid to do a professional task and spend a great deal of their time agitating as feminists instead. Self funded? Ha!

CJMorgan:"Youse are all poofs, keep away from me"

Don't worry, little fella, no one finds you the slightest bit attractive.
Posted by Antiseptic, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 9:15:50 AM
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C,J Morgan
Name one thing of any reliability from an Australian university, (except theory only).

Name one academic feminist who doesn’t make “generalised, bigoted, discriminatory, sexist and negative comments about males”, (and nominating Catherine Lumby is not even humour).
Posted by vanna, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 12:38:33 PM
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C J Morgan

Lets face it, if your really believed in a fair go and equality you wouldn't be paying out on gays to stir and sledge opponents, now would you?
Posted by Cornflower, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 1:05:53 PM
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Antiseptic

By far the most common type of feminist organization is self-funded by subscriptions and donations – the most high-profile being The Women’s Electoral Lobby. They are run mainly as collectives, using minimal professional and maximal volunteer labour.

A huge contrast to the extremely wealthy and well-connected anti-feminist industry that is mainly driven by libertarian right-wing think-tanks (Heritage Foundation, Centre for Independent Studies), with strong ties to the media (Fox News), which are in turn funded largely by the private corporate sector - arguably the real milkers of the public purse.

As for your pitiful list of government or publicly funded women’s bodies supposedly milking the public purse dry, their combined annual funding budget would barely equal a professional NRL player’s salary (how much is the NRL government funded BTW?), a backbencher’s superannuation payout or a couple of spare parts on a military helicopter.

As far as power is concerned, the Office for the Status of Women, for example, is just a minor advisory body within the Commonwealth Department of Families, Housing, Community Services and Indigenous Affairs. It doesn’t even have its own website.

Another of your examples, Qld Women’s Legal Aid Service, is just a sub-section of Qld Legal Aid that services that miniscule portion of women whose income (in combination with spouse/partner) is below the near-starvation levels required to qualify for general Legal Aid. It’s just a sideline service that gives legal advice specific to women, such as rape.

Unless you can do much better than this, please don’t waste my time or your own trying to milk a debate out of it.
Posted by SJF, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 8:14:19 AM
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