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Museum of Australian Democracy? : Comments

By Peter Vallee, published 19/5/2009

The new Museum of Australian Democracy in Canberra is not a museum, it is a doctrine.

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It doesn't sound like something to be proud of. Nor does it sound as though it is worth a visit.
Posted by Leigh, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 10:25:35 AM
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Very Canberra.

Very self-indulgent.

Very other-peoples-money.

Very out-of-touch.

Very PC. (To the point of self-parody, judging by this article.)

Very wasteful.

Very Canberra
Posted by Pericles, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 1:54:37 PM
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Periclea,

Very well said.
Posted by Cornflower, Thursday, 21 May 2009 10:44:35 AM
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I thought it a little strange myself that this 'sudden' change from OPH to the Museum of Australian Democracy at OPH (or MAD House) seemed to come about without much fanfare or consultation. I guess they had to do something new and 'tourist attracting' with it after the Portrait Gallery moved out and this idea celebrates both the history of democracy and also the ongoing process of participation and protest etc.

And I love the fact that this blog AGAINST the creation of the new museum, is in fact exactly what the museum of democracy is about: people's right to comment about and/or try to change decisions by those in power. And by using whatever means they can (e.g new technologies such as online forums and social networking sites etc).

I saw lots of buses there yesterday and I think it's a great idea (as are the proposed future exhibitions and the writers' festival in July), very educational for our young people and great for tourism. It might just need a year or so of operating before it is able to communicate to people what it is about.
Posted by canberra lover, Friday, 22 May 2009 11:21:45 AM
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Christianity is democracy. Do we need a museum to remember we had it once?

The Constitution of Australia guarantees democracy, by its S 79, which has courts, uncapitalised and judges (plural) uncapitalised. Throughout Ch III Constitution the only time a Capital Letter is used, is when a place is described. The Federal Supreme Court and High Court for example.

All Judges and Magistrates are delegates of Almighty God. Almighty God gave us democracy when He sent Jesus Christ to teach us its principles. Democracy is not compulsory voting, democracy is voting as one of twelve disciples of Jesus Christ calling down the Holy Spirit, and doing the will of Almighty God, on earth as it is in heaven. A proceeding in a court is an act of worship, if the court is democratically convened. That is, it has a Justice, not a Judge as president, and twelve members of the community sitting on the right hand of the Justice ( Father) to fulfil the promise in Luke 12 Verses 10-12. when the verdict is given, the promise of Jesus Christ that the truth will set you free, is carried out. Verdict means a declaration of the truth. Vengeance is mine saith the Lord, and that was why from 1297, a jury did all sentencing. Democracy is not served by State vengeance.

Since the Habeas Corpus Act 1640 16 Charles 1 Ch X, any undemocratic proceedings in any Court has been void. The Australian Courts Act 1828 is still in force, by S 11 Australia Act 1986. These enactments are still in force in Victoria and Victoria is in Australia.

Without going to the Museum of Australian Democracy I will not know if it recognizes that Democracy was killed in New South Wales by the Supreme Court Act 1970, in the Commonwealth by S 39 Federal Court of Australia Act 1976 and in the High Court by S 77A Judiciary Act 1903 so we need a museum to remember what it was like.

Time after time I hear people say that until 1970, democratic Australia was a great place to live
Posted by Peter the Believer, Saturday, 23 May 2009 8:35:53 AM
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When I read the transcript of the “Kable Principle” case, conducted in the High Court on 7th December 1995, I was amazed to read the discussion on court. The High Court Justice McHugh, accepted that the Parliament of the Commonwealth is a court. On reflection, it is really a Church. Like many churches it starts each service with the prayer from Matthew 6 Verses 9-13, and another prayer, and the silly Political Party that voted against the prayers, no longer has one member in the Parliament.

In a democracy with a two party system, there are two sides, and often the twain do not agree. The majority bullyrag their legislation through, as did Little Johnny with his IR Legislation, but in a true democracy, man proposes and God disposes. Even the Roman Catholic Priests accept that proposition.

From the time of Henry VII the democratic process derived from the Holy Bible was gradually introduced into England, and the Government had to use the common law courts, democratically convened to enforce its judgments or legislation.

The first democratic court to refuse to do Parliament’s will was in 1670, when William Penn was indicted for preaching the Gospels, in the streets. A Jury refused to enforce an Act of Parliament and British democracy was vindicated. In 1770, a Lord Chatham described British Democracy, as having courts to winnow the good legislation from the bad, and said Parliament can be a tyrant too.

It is really bad, that democracy is dead in Australia. We have to put it in a Museum. It should have a picture of a Justice and jury, sitting in civil jurisdiction, so we can remember democracy. Democracy should be a living breathing thing, still vibrantly making Australia a great place to live, free from unjust laws, and bullying lawyers. Maybe with the resurgence in learning spearheaded by churches like Hillsong in Sydney and Brisbane, and the other churches that benefit from its National Conference every year, we will see democracy rise from the dead, just as Jesus Christ did, with the realization that jury trials are democracy and Christian
Posted by Peter the Believer, Saturday, 23 May 2009 9:04:05 AM
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