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The great global warming debate, Phase 2 : Comments

By Peter McMahon, published 15/5/2009

The debate has shifted from whether global warming is happening to what should be done about it.

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Its all a huge conspiracy theory! Just ask mil-observer!

Only his guru, Mr Larouche, has all the magic answers!

Hehe :)
Posted by Yabby, Saturday, 16 May 2009 9:58:35 PM
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Protagoras, BB,

We are beating our heads against a brick wall in attempting to convey the essence of the problems facing the planet to the mob. There seems no point.

If any genuinely unconvinced but open minded person stumbles onto this thread he/she would no doubt be put off by the sheer volume of imbecilic rants posted to it.

Like many mainstream politicians the mob realize that it does not in the least matter whether anybody including themselves believe their lies or misrepresentations - the fact is its out there and getting responses. That is what counts and it clutters the airways so to speak so that the facts become harder to filter out for those really in search of them.
Posted by kulu, Sunday, 17 May 2009 1:45:20 AM
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Dear Protagoras, Why is it that when you are asked “what time is it?” you say, “a blue one with a zip down the side”. Do you ever tackle anything head on or do you always slide down the side?

You did not respond the key issue,

<< There are some 31,000 qualified scientists, 9,700 with PhD’s in this discipline who don’t agree with you. (See the link kindly provided by KenH in the above post). And there are many scientists with whom you do agree.
Your challenge, like that of all AGW’ers, is quite simple; explain why you don’t agree with the 31,000 qualified scientists? >>

I offered my response, my reasoning and the research, when are we going to hear from you?

Instead you seek to completely distort, remove context and misrepresent in order to draw attention from your own inability to respond.

I did say I thought AGW exists, and I do. What you failed to point out, as other OLOers can read for themselves, is that I specifically do not support Atmospheric Carbon based AGW, nor do I support the ETS as a solution. Therefore I agree with the 31,000 scientific “Skeptics” that have not jumped to conclusions and see the need to understand how and why our biosphere is working so hard.

As to your diversion related to Gen. II, III and IV reactors, you are correct, there are no Gen IV reactors in production. But the context was “safety” of modern reactors, not whether or not the Gen IV is a prototype or actually in production, and it won’t be until perhaps 2020. So what was your point?

You continue to support the case I made; that you are in the bunker because you have run out of ammunition.

If you can respond to the question, why no present it for all to read. If you can’t you are destined to stick your head over the sandbags occasionally to chuck a smoke grenade
Posted by spindoc, Sunday, 17 May 2009 9:53:52 AM
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No one is seriously suggesting that nothing at all should be done about global warming? I’m surprised that anyone is still talking about global warming – it is simply not occurring. The globe is not warming.

Climate CHANGE is the subject, and there are people seriously suggesting that nothing ‘should’ be done about climate change, because nothing CAN be done about climate change. Climate change is a natural, cyclical occurrence which has nothing to do with human activity, and there is nothing humans can do but adapt until the climate changes again.
Posted by Leigh, Sunday, 17 May 2009 11:07:58 AM
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My post is off message but Channel 10 weather in Adelaide last night said one of the dangers we have is that too many leaves are falling off the trees causing blocked drains (water deprivation) and the leaves are polluting the dams.

That's right. Leaves are the enemy. And their friends, the trees. Clearly, the trees have to go.

It's reassuring that there are other people on OLO who can see the madness in some of the pro-environment lobby's thinking.

There are smarter people out there than me, but I was thinking, IF the earth isn't warming, I'd expect to see wholesale resignations. Maybe I'm just a dreamer. These people aren't the resigning type.
Posted by Cheryl, Sunday, 17 May 2009 12:58:36 PM
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Stating the obvious: We should do everything we can to minimise climate change - except - continue to make the mistake that mankind can control everything. We know we can distroy the planet, so it is not habitable to humans, but we still can't control climate which is affected by things like storms on the surface of the sun, of which there have been far too few, lately.
Posted by LadyAussieAlone, Sunday, 17 May 2009 3:34:16 PM
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