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Genocide of thinking : Comments

By David Young, published 25/3/2009

We will have to learn to think if mankind is to survive. What we do at the moment is not thinking.

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The first thing we have to understand that none of these faiths has anything to do with Real God or The Divine Conscious Light.

On the contrary they are all methods of trying to control the Divine by reducing "IT" to the human tribal scale only.

The "gods" that they worship are all projections of the tribal ego in its search for power.

Secondly they all share three basic assumptions, namely that we are inherently separate from The Divine, the world process altogether, and all other human beings.

The Divine as an entirely objectified other, the world as entirely objectified other, and human beings as entirely objectified other.

These presumptions of separateness are shared by all cultures to one degree or another, but they have been developed to an extreme degree by these three monotheisms---and of course in the case of the christian offshoot or extension, scientism.

Where there is an other, fear spontaneously arises.

And what is more any and everything that is thus objectified immediately becomes your enemy with which you are always in conflict with, and which you seek to control and eventually destroy.

We are thus at war with quite literally everything: the Divine, the world altogether and all sentient beings. And have been for a very very long time.

This all encompassing war has reached its inevitable ENDGAME moment. Thus:

http://www.beezone.com/AdiDa/reality-humanity.html

ALL of our thinking, whatever its presumed intentions, is an extension of this control and power seeking asana---a consolidation of our separativeness, of the steel-hard-cage in which we are all trapped.
Posted by Ho Hum, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 9:52:32 AM
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The joke isn't "Abrahamic thinking", it's David Young.

The real question worth considering is how or why anybody would take this piece of unsubstantiated tripe seriously.
Posted by Trav, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 10:36:02 AM
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Religions are a means of telling humans how to behave and think, but so are all the other ideologies such as social, political and even ecological. You are probably right to suggest that these ideologies have actually stopped many of us from thinking for ourselves.

A more effective question might be to determine “why” we humans need ideologies in the first place. It would be reasonable to suggest that human sapience comes as a package, included in that package are the good bits like love, compassion, heroics and so on. Unfortunately, there are also the bad bits like greed, envy and anger. For thousands of years, great thinkers and prophets have tried to give us an understanding “self”, of both our good and our bad bits.

More recently our societies have sought to institutionalize the rules we need to mitigate our bad bits, hence the emergence of social, political, religious and ecological ideologies. These are the rules with which each ideology requires us to comply.

Given the shear volume, complexity and variety of rule sets, is it any wonder that some of us just “pick” one that sort of suits us. We then stop thinking for ourselves and go with the flow of like minded groups.

We are not a benign species, yet! So some of us will continue to need one or more of the available “ologies”. However, all is not lost. Our social environment is changing rapidly, reality is causing our species distress and that, according to Darwin, will bring about genetic cognitive changes in the same way it has done with our physical genetics.

When we get rid of the “baggage” of our bad bits, we will be free to think for ourselves rather than opting for some other humans’ ideas. At which point all the “ologies” will no longer be needed as we become a benign species.

Those who need “ologies” see no reality and will therefore not change. i.e. become extinct.

Got any more “ologies” David
Posted by spindoc, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 11:06:11 AM
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Something about your Article interferes with my "Thinking" .
After WW2 the West having a Guilt Complex about the Holocaust decided to confiscate a large section of Palestine and give it to the Jewish Culture . What did the Palestinians gain ? I don't know but they live in poverty in rubble homes ,according to my TV , I am asking ; did they get ripped off ? This is a Property Despite not a Cultural Clash .

Again the Middle East is not a Cultural Clash it's Property Dispute
OIL .....did they get ripped off ? Do they just "Think" they did ?

Can this all be compared to the Oz Aboriginals in a Cultural Clash with Multi-Cultural Oz and China who probably will get to own the Iron Mine and the Iron ?

What has Abraham got to do with any of this and what would his actions be if he were to return ?
Posted by ShazBaz001, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 11:19:37 AM
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"The purpose and result of Abrahamic thinking is the removal of personal responsibility."

You are going to have to more carefully define Abrahamic thinking I think.

Wasn't it Abraham who introduced the idea of one God? The immediate consequence of which is that it eliminates the competing idea of "my God is better than your God" between the different religions and sects.

The idea that mankind has one God makes him (ie mankind) responsible for his own intrinsic actions. It has to. It's the non-monotheistic religions that either have the effect of, or are a symptom of, a lack of personal responsibility.
Posted by RobP, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 11:26:45 AM
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Five Stars, Great piece Mr young.

@RobP, Abraham copied the one god idea from tribes in northern Iran. The typical polytheist religions tended ( if my understanding is correct ) not to have such a clear cut approach to right and wrong.
Posted by Kenny, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 12:39:06 PM
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