David Young obviously has no idea about how irrational, dogmatic and unscientific secular humanism is. It leads to brainless assertions dressed in pseudo science and blinds its followers from seeing the obvious. If any of today's leaders were nearly as intelligent or wise as Abraham the world would not be in the mess it is now. Instead we have replaced healthy thinking with perverted pride that causes men to be arrogant enough to think they have solutions outside of their Maker. The UN is a fine example of humanism. It has as much corruption if not more than the Catholic church had and parades a sickening false morality. That is the best humanism can come up with. Most can't even keep their word in marriage or love their own children and yet they think they can solve the world's problems. The genocide in thinking begins when we humans think that we are a lot cleverer than we are. That is the stinking thinking that leads to greed, pride, immorality, murder, hate and self righteousness. David has learn't little from history. Live like heathens you reap violence, hate, family breakdown and heartache. Show a little humility and follow God's way's you reap love prosperity and peace. A little honest study of history will reveal that.

Interesting posts to my article.

<But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.>
Genesis 2 .17

That is the core of Christianity. Do not get into good and evil. But Christianity (Judaism/Islam) and our whole way of societal thinking is based on good and evil (right and wrong). We are doing the exact opposite of what we have been told.

Looking through the posts to this and other articles it is all Abrahamic. The Christians argue in the Abrahamic style. The atheists argue in the Abrahamic style. Everyone is arguing in the Abrahamic style. And if you want to see the results watch the 6.30 news. Darfur, Zimbabwe, Iraq, Pakistan and so on. It is all the result of thinking in terms of right and wrong.

The only difference between Darfur and OLO is one of degree.

The Sermon on the Mount tells us exactly how not to think in the Abrahamic way. I agree with Jesus all the way. But look what the Christian church has done to the teachings of Jesus with its right and wrong.

But I am not getting at Christians or anyone. I want to get across the idea that it is possible to thing without right and wrong.

We have choices. We can solve the problems we have in this world or we can argue right and wrong. If we argue about right and wrong nothing is going to be solved. Are we going to use OLO to trade insults or openly discuss difference to find common ground?

Trav and Miranda don't you realise the God of the Old Testament, and Christ as the Christian true God, are not the same. And that the West rejected the God of the Old testament in favour of Christ as God. And He never asked poeple to kill their first born or any child... And we Westerners go along with his philosophies.

No Ho Hum Christ as God is not and never was in any way genocidal nor infanticidal.

Herein lies the problem ... a lack of comprehension. You all equate the old testament god with Christ. Simply a contradiction.

Runner
Spot on ... first post.

Some wrong ... second post

BTW I'm irrelegious but belive in Christ as God. Now that doesn't fit any common mode or labelling ... does it?

"<But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.>
Genesis 2 .17

That is the core of Christianity."

No it's not ... it's the core of Judaism.

The core of Christainity and western belief is 'The Sermon on the Mount'... and the Greek heritage ensures we do eat of that 'tree of knowledge of good and evil' and that we will thrive by doing so.

Regards Keith

I think that runner is so wise that he must be Abraham reincarnated.

However, I worry about the welfare of any sons he may have.

Trav, I agree with you . What a lot of tripe, there are jumps in logic and of course he is trying to use Abrahimic logic to defeat Abrahimic logic.

*I take it she ignores the thousands of unborn babies murdered as a sacrifice to convenience and women's rights*

Well the proof of the pudding is of course in the eating. What we
see from you runner, is mere rhetoric. If you really are concerned
about all those babies, as you claim to be, why not save them and
feed them?

You could for instance sell your computer and save another couple.
Clearly you prefer to fool around on OLO then save the starving
babies, so all your bleating is not much more then hot air,
quite frankly.