Bravo, TurnLeftThenRight for saying what needs to be said about the harsh, judgemental and rude posts that crop up here regularly. As I have said on a different thread, this site is filled with seriously dysfunctional types who are completely impervious to any rational argument or presentation of evidence. Not one piece of reasoning will ever permeate and it seems that the main purpose for these people coming here is to say over and over the same hate-filled and delusional rhetoric, usually extremely badly expressed. This is not intelligent and useful public debate. It is kneejerk sloganeering, and it is making this site more and more irrelevant.

"THEY call themselves MBM - the Muslim Brotherhood Movement - a gang of 600 men who boast they are the toughest and best young street fighters of Middle Eastern descent in Sydney...

Even hardened private security guards have expressed concern to police about the indiscriminate "punch and run" tactics of MBM members who, in the past two weeks, have arrived in large numbers at city nightclub venues and who walk the streets in intimidating mobs..."

http://www.smh.com.au/national/the-rise-and-rise-of-new-gangs-20090328-9eri.html

But, whatever you do, don't call it an "Muslim intifada" or some human rights activist might want your hide:

"The French complaint is based on Wilders' speech in New York last September. "Paris is now surrounded by a ring of Muslim neighborhoods," he said then. "Many neighbourhoods in France are no-go areas for women without head scarves."

He called the riots in the suburbs in 2005 a "Muslim intifada". Bouzrou came to the conclusion that the expressions are criminal."

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/012808.html

Given the experience of France, we can reasonably predict this gang will grow to become an intifada. How Labor and Liberal can continue to support Muslim immigration, thus knowingly increasing the problem, is beyond comprehension. I guess, in the interests of non-discrimination they are determined to have their own Somme. Well, Chairmann Rudd did say:

"The European Union of course does not represent an identikit model of what we would seek to develop in the Asia-Pacific," he said.

"[But] it is that spirit we need to capture in our hemisphere."

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/eu-vision-for-asiapacific/2008/06/04/1212258910272.html